Well, I finally was able to get some good photos of the difference in turf with and without Primo Maxx. In the photos below the area to the left has been treated with Priom Maxx, the right is maintained my another very large LCO here. As you can see from the photo the treated grass is MUCH thicker, stands straight, and looks much better. The non-treated grass in laying down and much thinner, the second photo shows how much thinner. FYI, this lawn is one of my best customers and I treated his lawn for free, about 7k area. He came out yesterday raving about the treatment and stated for me to continue the apps as needed and send him the bill from now on. Pardon the clippings, the other LCO mowed today and blew the clipping on my side. Hope this helps some of you in your decission making.