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Signs of lightning damage?

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Zohan, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    Zohan. There is a really easy solution for eliminating condesation that forms inside 'sealed' fixtures. (This ocurs when you open the fixture to install the lamp in humid conditions, then you close the fixture, trapping the humid air. Later the ambient temperatures decrease and the moisture condenses out of the air and onto the interior fixture surfaces.)

    I am a bit tired of 'giving away' my secrets on this forum and seeing my local competition benefit from my experience, so drop me a private message and I will tell you how to solve this.

  2. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 136

    Pm sent
    By the way, these fixtures with moisture were never opened by me until they went bad and i had to replace bulbs
  3. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,187

    Yes, they are Ushio lamps (or at least used to be a couple years ago)
  4. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    Never did get that PM. You can also email me: integra@integralighting.com

  5. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Kingsland, Texas
    Messages: 2,214

    I have had a few instances where lightning has hit a down light in a tree and of course it traveled all the way to the transformer and fried it. You will find a small black spot on the fixture where the lighting hits. The lamp will probably be in several pieces and the socket may be exploded.
  6. niteliters

    niteliters LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 537

    about 16 years ago an 8o something year old retired electrician we would use on simple jobs said to me, "electricity...she's a fickle maiden." He was a joy to be around. he worked with a retired carpenter in his 70's, last name Shrewsbury. handed me their business card one day; Shrewsbury Home Improvement Team, undereneath in letters 3 times the size S.H.I.T. :)
  7. LLC RI

    LLC RI LawnSite Member
    Messages: 149

    LOL.. Too funny.. I love it!.... Ya gotta love old men.. who can get away with stuff like that. Someday, I hope to be one of em!
  8. Viewpoint

    Viewpoint LawnSite Member
    Messages: 80


    The Vista 2219 has a weep hole at the base of the fixture, I'm not sure about the 2216, so look for that. This hole can drain water, but mostly is is a way for water and bugs to get IN. See photo of the 2219 in my yard (repurposed from a client's yard!). I have the weep hole in the wrong position, so it COULD catch water instead of draining. Not an issue for me since the lamp runs 22 hours per day testing lamp life of a GE constant color (last one died at 6,703hrs) vs. the illumicare LED (currently at 15,356hrs and counting).

    The factory lamps from Vista are Ushio, so lamp quality is not the problem most likely. These fixtures don't seal particularly well even considering the weep hole, so moisture will get in, and the lamp will burn it off, unless it's burned out. The same happens to the lights at my parents' house. The system is on a manual switch (which they rarely use), and I have to replace lamps with less than 200hrs on them because the moisture breaks down the white ceramic-like stuff that holds the lamp in the reflector, and then corrodes the pins off. If they would just turn the lights on once a week or so, the lamps would actually last longer! Some clients cannot be reasoned with though, especially if they're related to you.

  9. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 136

    Wow Andy, thanks for the detailed post and picture. Will definitely look for that next time there. ..Ed

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