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skid steer for lawn use

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by buckscapes, Jun 16, 2006.

  1. buckscapes

    buckscapes LawnSite Member
    Messages: 1

    I have an old case skid loader. It's good but is just too destructive for landscape use. Deep ruts and torn up lawns, no matter how hard I try not to. I have seen skid steers on lawns before, some leaving damage, some now. Even saw a guy popping wheelies to not tear it up. Tractor's too big for the work I do, is any skid steer good on the lawn? Even with turf tires it just ruts up the soft soil on a well-watered lawn. Any recommendations , I am in the market for a newer machine anyway.
  2. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    Ventrac makes a neat small tractor.
    I use a Kubota exclusively on lawns.It would be hard for me too imagine a lawn too small for it.
    The only lawn friendly skid steer is the Bobcat articulating model.
    It is really big though.
  3. miacharger

    miacharger LawnSite Member
    Messages: 68

    I have seen the ASV site and their "turf edition" and that seems to be a good solution. I have used rubber track loaders before and they are easier on a lawn than a wheeled loader. If you turn any way but on the spot, a healty lawn won't be damaged. Weak grass can rip out easily, even with a tractor. If the ground is wet you will damage the lawn, but the track loaders don't compact the soil and any damage grows back pretty fast.
  4. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    Even a dingo with Tracks does more damage than a wheeled machine when turning.

    My CTL with its so called low called low ground pressure leaves very deep tracks in yards even in a straight line.

    Probally 80 % of the sod I lay is in people's back yards.
    I drive across existing lawns everyday and my Tractor is the least intrusive thing I have used.
    I usually just put the sod in the bucket then drive across.

    But I will agree if the lawn is very wet there is no solution .
  5. Squizzy246B

    Squizzy246B LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 837

  6. Fordsuvparts

    Fordsuvparts LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 517

    You should look at a Rubber tracked machine, I like the Bobcat T190 it is a great machine in the grass rain or shine. We plant trees in the middle of very nice lawns on a weeekly basis and never have to worry about tearing up our customers grass. We did have a cat 247B it was just as good in the grass and almost as strong, it tipped a little easier but was a fairly good machine until it started to have to be worked on every week. We bought it with 600 hours and at first was great but after we put a couple hundred hours on it everything started to have problems in the ASV track system. It turns out that we were lied to about where it had been used. They did a real good job of cleaning it up and told us it had been used by a compnay that installed above ground pools. Turns out it was used in a coal mine and the very fine coal dust got in every bearing and seal and we started to have very costly down time. We ended up trading it and our 302.5 mini exc. on a 2006 T190 and a 2006 430 mini exc. My guys are hard on equipment but we make sure they are cleaned and greased every week and more often if they are worked in very muddy or dusty jobs. Just my 2 cents,
  7. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Germany
    Messages: 1,892

    Fordsuvparts, how do you like the T190 and 430?

    If you are considering a wheeled machine for lawns, also consider the Bobcat A300 -- it may be too heavy (even with your turf tires), but I'm not sure how big the turf tires you run now are.
  8. Fordsuvparts

    Fordsuvparts LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 517

    They both seem to be better machines than the cat machines I had before. The t190 is the perfect machine for us, we use the auger on it to plant the larger trees and then it digs like a dozer with a toothed bucket, it can unload full pallets of block with ease for our retaining walls and pavers and it runs the power rake and grapple bucket no problem. the cat 247 is to light for heavy attachments, it tips very easy compared to the other machines i have.
  9. Digdeep

    Digdeep LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,840


    I own an RC50 and it is far superior to any other machine I have ever operated on turf. I sold the "white" machines for close to a decade, have tried all of the other rubber-tracked machines, used utility tractors, and nothing comes close. The utility tractors work well on turf, but I have found that if you want to do some moderate/serious excavation and need a little more lift the RC50 is the best. It's the lightest machine that has enough ROC(1500lbs) to get the job done. Time and time again I have looked at the work I have done on and around customers lawns and yards compared to the other tracked units and noone can come close to matching the sensitivity and production.
  10. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,162

    FORD, I am curious why you like your T190? I have demoed them (03 and 05 model years with AHC controls not E/H pilots) and found it to be a lacking in nearly everything. Altitude may have something to do with performance, however the heavy sticks low hydrualic performance and excessive noise (most hydraulic noise) were distractors. Having come from CAT to Bobcat I would be curious was it due to the CAT under carriage problems alone? I found the CAT (277) more comfortable to run than a T250 although production favored the Bobcat in my experience. I guess I would like to hear more of why you went the way you did.

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