The only time I used anything besides a Bobcat as far as ss's go, it was a CASE and I hated it, it ran like crap. I won't blame it on case though, I'll blame it on the rental house. Case has made some good heavy equipment, so I'm sure they're skid steers are satisfactory.
We have all Bobcat's in our Fleet here.
and a 324 mini-excavator.
3 of the loaders have the old foot controls and 2 have the new hand controls.
I really like the new hand controls. When I'm running a skid for a while and my legs get tired I like to stretch them without thinking and it ends up sending my bucket in the air! The hand controls are a lot better on rough terrain too, where your feet might hit the pedals by mistake.
We've had great luck with our Bobcat fleet, can't realy complain about anything. Some of you may have seen the pic on my website of me with the 863 (I think) stuck in a swamp when I was digging out some contaminated soil. I had it in the mud over the back engine compartment door and filling up inside the cab. The machine never stalled or even hessitated. After a good pressure washing, its good as new!
We've been using our skid steers and mini excavator more than our larger equipment because lately we've been doing a lot of confined area work and road work. The small streets in Germany can't accomodate a backhoe with out closing down the road, so with the mini and a loader with the dump hopper attatchment we can get away with leaving our roads open while we work.
Lately, in all the construction and heavy equip. magazines they're has been a ton of articles on the benefits of theese smaller machines. Today especially because worksites and neighborhoods are getting congested with all the building going on and a lot of the time, all your going to be able to squeeze into some of these places are a mini or a skid steer.
I posted this elsewhere I think in the lawn care forum, but we have ALL the attatchments melroe makes, and a couple of home made ones, so if anyone has any questions, let me know. I'll be posting the pics of our skid steers and all the attatchments on my site in the next 1-2 weeks or so when I get the time.
Cat320, you asked me in the Comm. forumn if I got the G series, yes I did get the new G-series and I did look at a used New Holland that was at the White Star(Bobcat dealer), didn't really like it it was to old and rough, also looked at a 1993 7753 Bobcat w/1400hrs in good shape but for about $70.00 more dollars a month a could get a NEW 773 Bobcat w/ a 3year/3000hrs warranty that changed my mind,could easliy pay for itself if something major(motor)would have gone out of the used machine.The dealership was not pushy in any way and there is two of their company dealerships within 1hr or where I bought it they are 2hrs. away but my salesman comes up here 2-3days a week and said anything I wanted to rent or demo he would deliver. Guido how do the tracks work on this machines.You said you had everything or about, this was one thing I would like to have along w/ the tree shears. One other reason was the rebate or discount of $4700.00 that helped.
New Holland here guys, 2 555 skid steers, one 783, one LS190, and one 270 John Deere. We have had some problem with the JD the tourque tube at the rear of the loader twisted and cracked, fixed under warrantee, but still worried about it.
Looking at replacing the two 555 New Hollands this year, with LS160's they both have over 6000 hrs on them, the pins are getting loose and costs more to repin and bush them.
We run a Case 90xt,when we bought it I did a demo on a JD and I thought it could be the worst machine I had ever run.I was actually sore after a days worth of use.There is another excavating contractor in our town who uses deere and he was so mad after he got his new machine I think he made them do some mods to another machine until he was satisfied.The bobcats I ran were well priced and seemed to be a quality machine, but did not have the options I wanted.I have never run a New Holland but I do not like the long tale swing on them.
I've had a Cat 236 skid steer for about 2 months now - so far I'm real happy with it. In size, weight, and lift capacity it sort of falls in somewhere between the bobcat 700 and 800 series machines. Price-wise the local Cat dealer was willing to beat the Bobcat and Case dealer by several thousand dollars on comparable machines - I'm told this is because Cat is still fairly new to skid steers and are trying get some market penetration. If you're on the market, they're worth checking out.
I won't get into my favorite skid steer, but will just mention if anyone has gotten there latest issue of Northern Tool and Equipment and seen that they are now selling used bobcat skidsteer units. They have 753 for 9999.00 w/less than 2000 hrs, and also 853, 873, and newer 1997 753 too's.
Not sure how well they are going to sell, but just thought it was interesting. Look like they are selling 'floor' models, ie. ones with solid tires, uses for shop/indoor work. Always was interested in their refurbished forklifts, so wonder if they plan on working on the same deal with bobcats.
I saw that also, i was looking at construction attachments and on the top of the page they have like 6 skidsteer models. I don't know how many they have, but they probably bought them all from a company and fixed them up a little. they didn't mention aux. hydraulics.
I think the New Holland is the best, I've spent alot of time on the Lx865. The Superboom is the best, I've also run John Deere and Bobcats a couple times but I like the New Holland the best. The John Deere that I ran was identicle to the New Holland.
Alot of your preference has to do with the type of work you do.I do alot of digging and grading and find that the long wheel base of some of the heavy lift units really tear up the ground when doing alot of turning.Also the boom configurations cut down on visability, and the tail swing can hamper production in tight areas.If I was laying sod or loading and unloading land scaping blocks there is no question I would want something diffrent.
Digger, we do a lot of dirt work and find that the longer wheelbase helps in giving a better finish grade. But for digging you can't beat a shorter unit, the 863 and the XT90 are some of the best machines for this type of work.
I'd have to agree with digger. Different machines for different jobs. I like New Holland's Super Boom for lifting and they have the best lifting capacity (I think). Bobcat does make a bigger machine (873) that is about like a New Holland and would be great for a big sod job or finish grading. Longer wheelbase = better grading. But for like landscaping where dig and carry is an issue and space requirements, Bobcat would be my choice. I don't think you can beat their 753's. Best little machines on the market in my opinion. I don't think that Cat has really figured out what they're doing with their skidsteers. I think over time they will but right now they are just swimming in the ocean of competition.
Skid steer Lifting:
Case XT95=3000 lbs (factory ratings)
New Holland LS190=2800
John Deere 270=2600
New Holland LS180=2400
only one I know I'm missing is the Bobcat 963
but didn't look at machines weighing over 8000 lbs
Over here for landscaping (Chicago area) New Holland out sells the other three combined
For whats its worth MPT is running a test with urethane bucket edges. If you would like to be part of that test with low intro priceing, give me a call at 860-859-0739 and I will give you details.
:blob3: CAT.. CAT.. CAT.. I just bought a 246 TURBO so far its great. I researched all the other brands. I was very impressed with the CAT experience. Price was very competitive and the service was great. The financing was 2.9% waht else could you ask for. It has a 74HP Turbo CAT engine. Rated Operating Capacity is 2000lb. All bobcats attachments fit. Spend the extra money and get the enclosed cab & heat. Its worth it. Plus you are backed by a great name and reputation. Hand controls are great, with less fatigue at the end of the day. Try one youll love it.
:blob3: you go midjersy, scag man you should have come to the Cat factory with us in january and you might be singing a different tune, when the bobcat, case and Cat are compared side side the cat was better built hands down over the rest. i own a cat 226 for over a year now and would'nt trade it in for the world. many rental house out here changed over to cat for their ease of operation and reliablity. tony