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Skin reaction RE fungicides/insecticides

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by americanlawn, May 21, 2007.

  1. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,944

    For the past four years or so, I have experienced redness/blistering on parts of my hands during the season when I use Banner or Compass fungicides, as well as Scimitar & Crosscheck insecticides.

    Two years ago, I went to a dermatologist, and he prescribed Clobetasol Propionate USP, 0.05%. I use this cream periodically, and it "contains" the problem during the growing season. My symtoms go away during the winter, but symptoms always return the following spring.

    I wear spray gloves, but I only clean them thoroughly every two weeks or so.

    I know this is an allergy that other employees do not seem to have a problem with ???

    Bottom line: Anybody having these skin allergies? Thanks.
  2. ampeg76

    ampeg76 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 297

    lesco's manicure seems to irritate(daconil), but i no longer use that product!

    do you wear long sleeved shirts? is sweat carrying the drift towards your gloves and hands?

    blistering is not very cool, and would cause much concern if that happened to me:(

  3. GrazerZ

    GrazerZ LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 670

    I don't have any problems. But I would sugesst wearing long sleeves and tgrowing the gloves out every two weeks. Wash them dailiy if possible with a clean pair to rotate. This is what I do.
  4. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969


    I add "Corn Huskers" hand lotions to the inside of my gloves. In summer heat my hands will sweat naturally inside the gloves and the lanolin in the hand lotion gives me a free manicure. My hands look like I don't work with them or more like an executive's hands as a result of the soaking in lanolin inside the gloves.

    Yes gloves need to be changed out twice a month at least. Washed daily only makes good sense.
  5. upidstay

    upidstay LawnSite Bronze Member
    from CT
    Messages: 1,554

    I use disposable nitrile gloves as liners. I used to get a very nasty fungal rash every year after about a week of wearing spray gloves. My skin doc said to replace my gloves every few days. That got $$, so I tried the disposable nitrile ones. $8-10 for a box of 100, less if you buy bulk.

    You could be allergic to those products. You can develop allergies to virtually anything. Chemicals, foods, name it.
  6. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,944

    Thanks all for the good tips. I've heard of guys absorbing the fumes through the air (dermally) - especially pyrethrin-based products. (Much news on the web re: Scimitar)

    Back in my ChemScape days in Texas, we sprayed trees/shrubs/vines/ground cover with FIVE pesticides all at once. 2 insecticides, 2 fungicides, and 1 miticide. Plus spreader/sticker and "polyN" (to buffer the pH of the alkaline water). One of the fungicides was Mancozeb (zinc-based), and my arms broke out really badly from it -- had to drop it from my mix. ChemLawn eventually dropped Manozeb altogether cuz other tree/shrub specialists around the U.S. also had the same reactions. We had blood drawn every two weeks, but that was merely to test for colonestrace levels. The "lawn dogs" never had to have their blood drawn.

    I will implement your suggestions. Thanks again, americanlawn.
  7. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969


    Are you sure the Ag dept didn't take you to lunch???? Too bad some Chemical Knowledge didn't "fumes through the air (dermally)" to you.

    FYI Pyrethroids based products does not volatilise and can only reach the Skin in the form of contact droplets. While some people are sensitive to just about anything, Pyrethroids are one of the safest insecticides on the market today for mammals. Medicated Soaps for Head Lice in children and fleas on dog & cats are made from Pyrethroids.

    BTW Can you tell us the difference between Pyrethrin and Pyrethroids without looking it up. It is a very simple difference.
  8. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,944

    Hi Ric. No I cannot. My problem concerns spraying trees (fallout) with these products. Long sleeves, etc do not seem to prevent my skin allergy.

    I will look it up, though. Thanks for your help.
  9. lawnservice

    lawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 589

    oh oh oh I know i know

    Pyrethroids are synthetic while Pyrethrin is made from the flower (ah you know the flower? hmmm cant get the mind to remember the name of the flower right now *brain failure* happening more and more to me :confused: )
  10. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,944

    atta boy lawnservice!

    Also .... sorry Ric -- I just checked: Scimitar is a "pyrethrin".

    I'm certainly not a know-it-all, but what I said is correct afterall.

    Now it's time for a cold one.

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