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So are you in random drug testing?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by 4 seasons lawn&land, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. RussellB

    RussellB LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 8,535

    I haven't cast a vote for him as of yet. What's the deal with you anyway?? Issues much??
  2. treemover

    treemover LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 422

    It's not too random being the owner.... You have 30 days to go in once they give notice, you being the boss u tell ur employee anytime during the 30 days. Make sure you have your medical card as well
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  3. davidhoy.pt

    davidhoy.pt LawnSite Member
    Messages: 17

    Long time lurker, but.....I work for a company where we do occupational health. The standard is ALL CDL drivers (A and B) need to be enrolled in a drug testing program. For a single owner/operator, you can either be tested repeatedly or enter a consortium where you are enrolled with others to decrease your chances of being selected. Our local consortium has 500+ drivers, and half will be randomly (computerized) selected within a year. If selected, the cost for the drug test is approximately $50, otherwise there is no cost. Much better than facing the fines if not enrolled in a drug testing!

    BTW, hang on there are more DOT regulation changes coming next year in regards to which physicians can provide DOT medical cards, most family doctors and primary care physicans will not be included in this registry.
  4. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Messages: 3,614

    Big issues with any type of regulations. Even the legitimate ones urk me let alone the silly ones. Any endorsement of regulations after all that I read today, isnt going to get the thumbs up by me or most people around here.
  5. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,162

    Everyone has to play the drug test consortium game. Here its about $50.00 per test Whenever they call you send in who they want. At the end of the year they will send you a year end results that include everyone in your consortium. Just part of the game we all play, or are supposed to play. If you are a business owner with CDL drivers and you are not in a consortium, you would be best to fix that before you get audited.
  6. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Messages: 3,614

    Im a new DOT enrolment so Im at the top of the list. I expect they'll be calling in the next few months.
  7. davidhoy.pt

    davidhoy.pt LawnSite Member
    Messages: 17

    I can see your frustration with regulations and the grey areas in DOT regs. I myself have an A, pay for a drug test and an annual medical card. But, I have a family that I love dearly and surley do not want someone operating a 40+ ton vehicle on the same roads that is under the influence of a non-prescribed chemical. As far as the medical card goes, I feel the same way. You would be surprised how many operators on the road have uncontrolled blood pressure, uncontrolled blood sugar, sleep apnea or are under the influence of chemicals.
  8. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    Sounds good on paper but in reality drug tests are useless if the person is not required too take it imediatly. Most drugs are only in your system for a few days.

    IN reality how many fatal accidents involving a CDL driver have been a direct result of drugs?
  9. treemover

    treemover LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 422

    Not many! We have have the DOT rules we have to follow, but when it really comes down to it, how many of the wrecks are actually caused by the Commercial Driver? Most of the time it is the four wheel driver.
  10. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,763

    I don't know where 30 days comes into play, mine was next business day for the testing facility. Someone else said it doesn't matter who you are, owner employee or whoever YOU are still driving the CMV so the laws still apply. I guess I don't see the big deal other than the testing fee? As an owner I was more concerned about all the fees for operating the truck $50 here, $100 there.... that was worse than the random drug testing IMHO.

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