So, TruGreen...

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by WenzelOSLLC, May 8, 2014.

  1. WenzelOSLLC

    WenzelOSLLC LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 709

    .... may or may not have sprayed Pre-em on the lawn I just overseeded. :eek:

    Came home last night and there's an app sign in the neighbors yard where I just overseeded some sod that didn't take where a pool used to be. I'm hoping for my neighbor's sake that they didn't spray it but who knows.

    Looks like I may be doing some sod work later. :rolleyes:
  2. smlc451

    smlc451 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 109

    Do you apply topdress when you overseed?
  3. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,125

    If you were not sure, the underlayment for the seed should have been activated charcoal. Pendimethalin or Prodiamine work the same on all grass seed be it fescue or crabgrass. Charcoal will neutralize herbicides in the soil.
  4. smlc451

    smlc451 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 109

    What about a humate application? Would that be the same?
  5. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,795

    In most states the exact chemical used has to be listed on the invoice, and the amount. Check that. Simplest thing to do ( if it is extremely thin) is resod. Quicker than reseeding, and looks better.
  6. Skipster

    Skipster LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,086

    I run into situations like this a lot. The customer doesn’t tell me that he wants to put seed down, then he gets upset when the PRE that I used kept the seed from coming up. For the last 10 years or so, I’ve been reminding each and every customer before the first treatment of the year to tell me if they intend on seeding in the spring.

    If they tell me they want to plant seed in the spring, we simply skip the PRE and everybody’s happy. But, there are the times when customers don’t tell me they want to seed before the first app foes down. Most of the time, they don’t think about seeding until this time of year, after the first PRE has gone down. But, we make very clear to each customer that seeding after the PRE won’t work.

    So, was it TG’s fault? That depends – did you tell them you were going to be seeding? If not, then this one’s on you. If you told them not to apply any PREs because you were going to be seeding, then it’s their fault.

    How do you fix it? You can try the charcoal, but it’s really messy. Or, you can wait until the fall and be sure you tell them what you’re wanting to do. Like I tell my customers, if you don’t tell me what you want, I won’t know.
  7. WenzelOSLLC

    WenzelOSLLC LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 709

    Not really blaming TG. I asked about it when I was talking to the neighbor before doing the seeding and she didn't even mention it.

    I aerated it and raked the cores apart instead of bringing in fresh material to topdress. It wasn't the most ideal way to get it done but she was looking for the least expensive way to get it done. She didn't want to do sod again unless the seed didn't work.

    I'll have to try the charcoal and see if that does the trick.

    I'm going to have to think about it a little more to see if I should be fixing it out of pocket or whatever.
  8. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,292

    Hit nail on head with this post. I also have issues with people asking me about seeding their lawn AFTER I have spread pre down. They have said nothing of the sorts prior to my application. Then to see the look in their eyes when I tell them they have to wait until late summer at the earliest to try and seed.
  9. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,955

    You got that right DA. Many uniformed (moron) customers never tell you they "threw some seed on top of the ground" .. like that's gunna work anyway. :laugh:
  10. sprayboy

    sprayboy LawnSite Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 947

    Seed should not be sold to homeowners until August 1st.

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