Sod & Prep

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by Shawn Burns, Aug 5, 2002.

  1. Shawn Burns

    Shawn Burns LawnSite Member
    from N.C.
    Messages: 181

    I have another landscaper who i do some hydroeeding for and he wants me to give him a price for sod work also.
    I usually get around $.50/s.f.., or $4.50 a yard to install sod.( high or low i don't know, but that's what i get.)
    My question is, does anybody have a price per square ft. including prep?( tilling, leveling, etc.) I usually have to look at a site before giving a prep price, but he wants a set price so he will know how to bid his jobs using me to do his sod work. I just don't see how i can give him a set price with jobs varying so much. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
  2. ipm

    ipm LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 264

    How many sq. ft. will you be gauranteed? Your price is very competitive. $250.00 per pallet 504sq.includes prep.

    Is it new home construction?
  3. gusbuster

    gusbuster LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,928

    just a suggestion,

    Take what you would charge a basic, no frills easy to do job. Now take the most horrible, hard to do job. find that price and take the high and take the low and split the difference.

    Do you really want to work this way??

    As you just explained in your post, how are you suppose to bid something and give a cost without knowing the work involved. Have you tried to explain that to him. If he's subbing out to you, either he doesn't have the time, the equipment or you're doing the work cheaper than he could. Which may be telling you something.

    Just my thoughts.
  4. Shawn Burns

    Shawn Burns LawnSite Member
    from N.C.
    Messages: 181

    no gauranteed sq. ft. as of yet, good thought though. as far as i can tell , it will be a little bit of everything, new and old construction.

    Taking an average may be what i do, although i will stay on the high side i think.
    No, i really don't want to give prices without seeing what is involved, but as mentioned above if i stay on the high side it may be worth my while.
    Also, i think it is more the time issue, this guy runs a fair sized outfit ( about 5 maint. crews and 5 install crews). He has been calling me almost every day, somtimes twice a day over the last few weeks to talk to me about pricing different seeding jobs. Some i have landed, some i have not, but i think he's for real. Price could be why he's using me, but i feel like i am getting the average around here for laying sod.

    Thank you both for your thoughts!!
  5. AGLA

    AGLA LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,776

    Why not give him something else to go by that is flexible and can be given to the client? Like $x for fine grading and sod with an additional hourly rate for stripping, tilling, adding topsoil, and price for dump runs. His client should understand that while he covers your tail and his.
  6. Shawn Burns

    Shawn Burns LawnSite Member
    from N.C.
    Messages: 181

    I'm still not quite sure i can give him a per square foot price for prep work at all.Today i was thinking, a 5,000 sq.ft. area on a 30* slope with lots of rocks sure is alot different than a 30* area of flat topsoil. It would be like giving somone a price for plants, by the plant, reguardless of size or type. That's just plain silly.
    Any other thoughts?
    Maybe i just needed to read my own question to come up with an answer?
  7. aquaturf

    aquaturf LawnSite Member
    from MA
    Messages: 28

    Why doesn't the landscaper do his own sod? I've heard of builders doing this, but a landscaper? Sounds odd to me.
  8. Shawn Burns

    Shawn Burns LawnSite Member
    from N.C.
    Messages: 181

    I'm not sure myself. I don't know if he was hoping i would do it cheaper, or if he is just too busy and thought it would free up some of his time, or what exactly he was trying to accomplish.
    I told him the other day that i would have to look at the jobs before i could give him a price. He didn't sound too happy, oh well!
    Thanks for the advice y'all!
  9. gusbuster

    gusbuster LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,928

    If he ever asks you again, ask him this:Would he price a lanscaping job without visiting the job site or having a set of plans to bid off of?

  10. Shawn Burns

    Shawn Burns LawnSite Member
    from N.C.
    Messages: 181

    That's about what i told him. I also added that i could give him a price, but it was by all means going to cover MY tail ! He didn't seem to mind too much i have already done more work for him. Oh well!

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