Some brief numbers I came up with. Anyone seen anything that sticks out as bizarre or impossible? Hopefully mistakes are at a minimum. Acounts Price Times Totals 85 29 29 71485 Mowing 50 90 1 4500 Mulch 35 280 1 9800 Plowing 70 175 1 12250 Leaves 75 140 1 10500 Fertilizer 108535 Expenses Wage 20000 Wage 16000 Truck 5500 Mower 2500 Trailer 700 Plow 1000 Insurance 2500 Bus Insu 800 Mainten 2500 Legal 500 Misc 500 Gas 11250 Total 63750 Gross 108535 Expenses 63750 Net 44785 Net 89570 170 Mowing Accounts Owner 70000 100 Mulch Profit 19570 70 Plowing 140 Leaves 150 Fertilizer Two Crews, Two trucks, 4 Employees Total. Its a direct copy from excel so its kind of messed up. The gross/expenses categories were doubled to get the values at the bottom. In general, figuring 108535 gross per truck and 63750 expenses per truck. --- Owner is NOT doing any work --- For fertilizer, I priced that as 230 for 5 times, but just gave that as the gross number after the expenses. Just kind of took a stab in the dark at the cost of fertilizer, about 80 dollars for 5 applications per house? Same with mulch, that 90 dollars is profit from it. Figuring 30/yard and 3 yards average per household. Also, the profits would have to get taxed, and I'd have to get healthcare for myself, so the 70000 isn't all it seems to be. The difference in employee prices is due to the one plows, the other is "seasonal." Figuring about 37 weeks for the 16000/yr one - approx 430 gross/week. The trucks at 5500 each would be leased vehicles or purchased vehicles and replaced as needed, same with the mower, just switch them out every couple of years (3), so that is an on-going replacement so the fees are always there. Gas may seem ridiculously priced, and I thought it was too until I did the math. 85 Accounts per week, figure 38 weeks with leaves/plowing, 8 miles per to be safe. This is 25840 miles per truck. Dividing by 12 for the miles per gallon, leaves me with 2153 gallons. Multiply that by 1.5 for equipment and what not, gives med 3230. Gas at 3.25 gallon to be safe, 10497. Okay, so its a little high. But it is something that really needs to be considered and is probably often overlooked. Since this is for two crews, I'd try, or would hope to get 4 crews, 4 trucks, 8 employees. More headaches, but this should double everything in the gross/profit section, and then after taxes and healthcare, my wage would be where I want it to be. Good Wage, no work. Get to enjoy the other things in life! Thoughts or comments?