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Some of you guys are scaring the heck out of me!

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by CLT Bluesman, Feb 11, 2020.

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    CLT Bluesman

    CLT Bluesman LawnSite Member
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    Great idea on writing in the name of the neighbor! I’ll make sure that’s there. I’m on the truck decal. My Fiverr person just completed design for doors of my truck and for trailer gate.

    As far as my helper I’ve been working hard to incentivize him. He knows I have at most 5 years left to do this. I have batted around the idea of keeping close tabs on the expenses. Including paying both him and I the same wage as workers. I will essentially be an employee of my own company. I will pay each of us $14.00 an hour while we are working.

    He has way more knowledge than me of landscaping, design and install. He really knows his stuff. Other companies are trying to steal him from me once he posted on FB that he’s working WITH me. I said to him he is actually my mentor. I told him yesterday that I intend to capture all expenses and then figure out what percentage of the profit to share with him. I explained I don’t know what that looks like yet. But to me it feels right to share any profit with him. However I know it can’t be a 50/50 split because I purchased the equipment and I spend a lot of time at home strategizing and contacting people etc. So I’m going to ask you guys what you think of that idea and how would you share the profit?
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  2. Mattmowsgrass

    Mattmowsgrass LawnSite Senior Member
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    Good luck, you have a plan. Stay disciplined and don't get discouraged, don't watch what others are doing. You will succeed.
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  3. JMK26

    JMK26 LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Missouri
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    Grant mentioned this ''Going forward you really have to look at what you gross per MAN hour. You grossed $725 for 18 hours. Not 9."

    You need to take this into account. Wanted repeat so you understand that. Not knowing that will kill your business. Thumbs Up

    Hanging flyers like that is a solid plan. The 50% off isn't. If you are going to offer a discount keep it low...10%...or keep it on the backend....last mow of season is free or 50% off the final mow. Keeps them around...also put a disclaimer on it like no late payments.

    I personally dont offer discounts to new clients. They haven't proven loyalty to me yet. Discounts go to people that have spent thousands of dollars on my service as an occasional thank you.
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  4. JFGLN

    JFGLN LawnSite Silver Member
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    Do you have a website that you can direct them to? Does it have a contact form set up?
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  5. JFGLN

    JFGLN LawnSite Silver Member
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    Definitely network with other companies. I turn down work almost every week. It would be great to have someone to refer these jobs to. I turn down enough work that a new guy could easily start a business.
  6. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
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  7. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
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    What about offering him a % of ownership, say 10% each year. In 5 years it would be 50-50 and you sell him your half. If you desire you could work for him for a while to help him retain clients and earn a few $.
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  8. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
    Messages: 20,513

    Have done this. Help others grow their businesses rather than hire help.
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  9. JFGLN

    JFGLN LawnSite Silver Member
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    I get request every week for things that are slightly out of my service area or for services that we don’t provide.
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  10. Manny Carlino

    Manny Carlino LawnSite Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 19

    I am now in my 31st year, contact me if you would like to discuss TOO MUCH to talk about here but i will give you a few tips.

    1) Hire a very good industry accountant (meaning a SMALL BUSINESS accountant, not your brother or brother in law or a cousin)

    2) Charge for your services what you MUST charge (NOT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE CHARGES or what the GOING RATE IS. The GOING RATE is the rate you will go OUT OF BUSINESS faster...

    3) You must have a budget

    4) You must have and no your numbers before you can figure out what to charge. You must take a course on all of this (budget, knowing your numbers and what to charge) You can find these on the web with Industry specialists like Van Der Koi, James Huston or any other Green Industry professional.

    I did NOT start making money until i took these courses and that was 10-12 years after i was already in the business KILLING MYSELF and broke every winter. I now run a 1.2M - 1.4M annual revenue company with 8 field employee's and 2 office employee's (my wife and myself).

    I now help business's and i do not charge, i just help because my company is now on Auto pilot and i have the time and i do not want to see people suffer in business or personally.


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