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soon starting a business- need examples of forms

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by FrankenScagMachines, Mar 4, 2001.

  1. FrankenScagMachines

    FrankenScagMachines LawnSite Platinum Member
    from IN
    Messages: 4,739

    Hey everyone, I am wanting to start a grounds maintenance biz, and would like some example forms , but please don't overwhelm me with info. I don't know if this is the "secretary's" forum or what, i usually only stay on the snowplowing forum, so is this the one to ask on? Thanks a lot,
  2. BigEd

    BigEd LawnSite Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 299

    What forms do you want,contracts,bid proposal sheets.I think you should check into your state laws first,being only 13 years old,you can not be legally held to a contract or hold anyone by contract.
  3. FrankenScagMachines

    FrankenScagMachines LawnSite Platinum Member
    from IN
    Messages: 4,739

    OH, didn't think about that Ed... i'll check into that.... well, actually my B-day is in late May, and i wanted to start next year, so i would actually be 15 that spring/summer that i start my biz. i need time to get enough money for buying the neccesities-truck,trailer and other things. I guess i need like receipts and ledgers and stuff maybe. I don't know how far i can go, if i cant do contracts at 15yrs old. I wouldve liked to do annual contracts and take care of their yard, leaves and snow, and garden, all on one contract. that is what i like to do, all the things outdoors. Do you know if i could do contracts at 15yrs old?
  4. Skookum

    Skookum LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 675

    I am not so sure I would get TOO caught up in all the legalities of a annual contract. I realize that at such a young age it can all be a little overwhelming, but doubtfull that you would ever need a presedence about age and a legal binding contract to collect on a invoice.

    Just setup your price with your customers, write it down on paper along with services provided. Have the customer sign it as agreement to the set price, wether it be per time, weekly, monthly, etc... Send them a bill at those intervals. They WILL pay, if someone does not, take them to small claims court, show the signed paper, you WIN! They still may not pay, since the court cannot force them to pay, but I'll bet age never comes up! Dealing with a million dollar account, go see a lawyer and discuss it, otherwise do not worry about to any great deal.

    I think your hardest problem will be insurance! Most companies will not take on anyone under 18 or sometimes 21 for such liability policy that includes machinery. You will likely have to have your parents be on the insurance somehow.
  5. Kansas Turf Man

    Kansas Turf Man LawnSite Member
    Messages: 47

    I would definetly find out what the laws are in your area. I like you did this type of work a few years ago I'm 22 now I started this type of stuff to keep me busy when I was 12 or so. I didn't really deal much with contracts. I just did the work as it was needed and made people pay up front. I started with my own yard. When people see what you can do they don't mind putting the money on the table. Now I am part owner in a sod business in SW KS and we farm also. 7,000 acres now but we are getting ready to take over a few smaller farms and expand to 10,000 - 12,000 acres over the next couple of years.

    You will most likely have to get you parents involved to make it legal. You just need their signature to make things legit. It shouldn't be too hard to get done.

    Best of luck.
  6. FrankenScagMachines

    FrankenScagMachines LawnSite Platinum Member
    from IN
    Messages: 4,739

    maybe i should just do like you and do it w/o a contract. Then it should be ok. If i took pics of my yard, which is striped, it should be ok. Except the mower i mow with at our house isn't the same one i'd be using to mow their houses with, and it can't stripe, so they'd likely complain about that maybe. but if i get a yard roller, i could pull it behind the tractor while i mow and it would stripe the lawn. The tractor i mow at our house with is a '91 Toro Wheel Horse 520H with a 48" deck-no bagger, but i'd like one. It just happens to have deck rollers at convenient places between the tires and the rear tires do part of it, so it makes stripes, but not as deeply accented as a mower made to .... simplicity tractors have full rollers purposely for striping. The one i'd mow other people's yards with is a 1964 Bush Hog garden tractor with a 32" mower. small mower deck, but so are these yards i'd be mowing. These people may be just under middle class in a very modest community... i guess that depends on where you live. if i could tell you their annual income averages, that would probably help determine some things. i might try to find out. like ask my parents to guess at it. g/g, thanks,

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