sooooo over the handy man

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by jonesy5149, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,566

    LOL - Gotta Love MD's Courts!

    See, your friend shot himself in the foot.

    Hindsite is always 20/20, but he should have taken care of the broken counter top and it would never have made it court.

    What happens is, a contractor is sued or sues someone. The 1st question a MD judge will ask is "are you licensed"? If the answer is yes - the case proceeds. If the answer is no - you go to jail.

    When I was an expert witness against another paver contractor - the other contractor's attorney questioned my licensing status during my testimony. I later heard the attorney whisper to her client "we'll check his license, if he's not licensed we'll get contempt charges on him"!! LOL

    You can't even work under a GC on a residential property without a sub-contractors license in MD.

  2. jonesy5149

    jonesy5149 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 259

    so if you have the right papers (licenses) you dont go to jail.... i guess that is why a person would have a license because he or she dose that for work:dancing:;)
  3. stuvecorp

    stuvecorp LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,244

    You know, I'm sick of hearing about handyman or lowballers - who cares? It's the free market, you will never get all the bids or jobs(and seriously there is a lot of jobs I don't even want) and without the scrapers in the market how would people really see the difference between a well skillfully and well constructed hardscape project?
  4. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,888

    No such thing as a low baller
  5. Woodland

    Woodland LawnSite Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 207

    Not true. A lowballer is one who knowingly and intentionally underbids a job so they can get it. This is not as common as people on this forum complaining about think. What most are referring to, and this post in particular, are morons who should not be working for themselves. These are people who think they're doing things right but the don't know how to do the work properly, don't have the proper equipment and don't know how or what to charge for their work. They might do very well working for someone else, being told what to do and when, but can't do it successfully on their own. These guy are VERY prevalent in this business but fortunately, like the lowballer, won't last more than a couple of seasons.
  6. stan the man

    stan the man LawnSite Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 702

    all account use me as handyman. i have done a lot walkway and deck for my accounts and i am not cheap i was higher then the another lco. so bit**ing of a handyman is not the way to go.
  7. jonesy5149

    jonesy5149 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 259

    Yaaaaa your right so i just open the mowing aspect to my portfolio...thanks for the advise :laugh:
  8. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,888

    Not everyone offering services for lower cost is what you call a low baller. Some can becouse their costs are less. If what you say is true where is the problem? watch your debt. Not every business even if they do things right stays in business.
  9. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,566

    In this area, most full fledged hardscapers come and go.
  10. LB1234

    LB1234 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,208

    instead of blaming the "handyman" or "lowballer" or whomever you want to call them...blame the homeowner for choosing the lowest bidder...which really should indicate you did a poor job of selling the project and informing the customer (justifying) why you charge what you do. If they still insist on choosing the lowest bid then ask yourself if you really want them as a customer.:nono:

    And I'm one of those "lawn jockey's" that performs hardscape installs...should I be upset when the "hardscaper" bids significantly lower?:laugh:

    Welcome to the real world.

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