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starter just clicks - Toro Z5000 Kohler

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by robro1102, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. rwaters

    rwaters LawnSite Senior Member
    from Online
    Messages: 731

    if you can not move the flywheel, that is bad you might want to take it to a mechanic your problem is above what you can get help for on the internet.
  2. robro1102

    robro1102 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 26

    That does not sound good. Just to be clear, I am trying to move the flywheel by grabbing the metal "gears" all around the flywheel. I can't budge it.

    How do you post pictures and maybe I can show you what ui am taking about. Thanks for anyone trying help.

    IRRITECH LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 999

    If you can't move it in either direction then you're engine is locked up, meaning no oil, probably new engine.
  4. robro1102

    robro1102 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 26

    If I remove the starter from the motor, SHOULD the flywheel move freely? Right now, the starter is engaged in those flywheel gears and won't go anywhere.
  5. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,029

    The starter gear being engaged into the flywheel in most cases will not lock the engine up, But take it back off and try moving the flywheel again.

    If you still can't budge it the way your trying, I'll bet the noise you first heard out in the yard was a magnet coming loose from inside the flywheel. It's now jammed into the stator and locked the engine up.

    Next step would be flywheel removal for magnet/stator inspection.....
  6. robro1102

    robro1102 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 26

    alright this might be my last question for tonight, been a LONG day. The magnet looks to be on the OUTSIDE perimeter of the flywheel. There are also magnetic contacts that is not lined up. Are there magnets on the inside that I can't see?
  7. robro1102

    robro1102 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 26

    I am attaching a picture to show you guys what I am looking at. My two fingers are on what I am calling contacts on the left, and magnet on the right. The green wire is a new ground from neg battery terminal to bolt on chasis. The problem existed WAY before this new experiment.

    Thanks again for your help.

    Z5000 Motor.jpg
  8. robro1102

    robro1102 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 26

    I am adding this quick reply to make you aware of picture.
  9. Mtnmn

    Mtnmn LawnSite Member
    Messages: 92

    Not familiar with that engine, but the fan blades look like they have had the crap beat out of them.

    Pull the spark plug disengage the starter. If you cant move flywheel by hand you have major problems. Stuck piston/scored cyl.
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2011
  10. robro1102

    robro1102 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 26

    I will go to church first, but I will remove the starter today. I see what you are "seeing" but that is just a visual distortion. Those "blades" are plastic and are in brand new condition. They seem to concave toward the center for some reason.

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