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Stealing employees???

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by svlandscape, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. svlandscape

    svlandscape LawnSite Member
    Messages: 48

    Last Friday one of my guys quit with no notice and said he had to go because it is too hot here. (100-120F!) I tell my other guys to be on the look out for someone to replace him. Well on Wednesday I recieve a call from, "Joe." I tell him the position available, what the starting pay is, what I would expect from this person that I need hire, etc. "Joe" just happens to work for another LCO in town who I have known for a few years. I even worked for this LCO before I went on my own about two years ago but left him because he did not pay well, I was using my personal truck on the job and a bunch of other things that I won't even get in to but we remained friends and would do favors for each other on ocasion. I also park my dump trailer on his parking lot (he is a lawn and power equipment dealer) and pay him rent for it.

    Well this LCO called yesterday saying that "Joe" was right there with him and was quitting to go work for me and wanted to know why I would steal his employee, that it was not right that I was calling "Joe" to offer him a job! I tell him I did not call "Joe", he called me! I did not offer him a job, I just told him the position was open, the pay, etc.

    Today as I pulled up to his parking lot to park my dump trailer, he comes up to me and tells me that he was upset that I was trying to steal his guys and that all his employees were saying that yeah, I was trying to steal some of his guys, blah, blah, blah.
    Told me to get my trailers of his property,etc

    Sorry about the long post but I had to vent. What to you guys think about this?
  2. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
    from earth
    Messages: 8,745

    I am kind of confused...both of you share the property?

    But I look at it this way, the guy could have made a counter offer to guy. I feel that if he didn't make a counter off to him then it is one of two things or both.

    1. Either he didn't care about his employees.
    2. The employee wasn't that great of a worker to make a counter offer to
  3. GLAN

    GLAN Banned
    Messages: 1,647

    sv sorry that you lost your parking.

    You'll find a better place.......:)
  4. dvmcmrhp52

    dvmcmrhp52 LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Pa.
    Messages: 4,205

    Thats probably why you got the call.The employee told his boss he was leaving unless he got more money and his boss made a counter offer.This employee will most likely be looking for other work sometime soon.
  5. svlandscape

    svlandscape LawnSite Member
    Messages: 48

    The property belongs to him, it is a large commercial building where he has his lawnmower shop and runs his landscape business out of. I just rent a couple of parking spaces for my trailers because I can't have them at my house, the city code enforcement officers know me by name already.

    As far as a counter offer, I don't know If he made Joe one or not but this LCO just about went nuts about this because he took it very personal that I would even talk to his employee! The way I look at it, everyone has a right to work where they want if the money is better, working conditions are better, etc.
  6. svlandscape

    svlandscape LawnSite Member
    Messages: 48

    What really ticked me off was that Joe said I called him which as a bunch of BS! I take pride in being honest and taking pride in my work and can't stand it when people lie about stupid little things.

    Joe was lying in order to protect his but because if he would have admitted that he called me, he would of been canned!
  7. dvmcmrhp52

    dvmcmrhp52 LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Pa.
    Messages: 4,205

    I can never deny a person a better spot in life even if it is my own employee.Sometimes the grass just does grow a little greener elsewhere.Always do what you can for employees but sometimes there is a better deal waiting to be had.
  8. Turf Medic

    Turf Medic LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,073

    So my question is this. Is Joe working for you now?
  9. tiedeman

    tiedeman LawnSite Fanatic
    from earth
    Messages: 8,745

    I can see where you are going with this Turf Medic and I agree...he wouldn't be working for me if he lied right off from the start. Someone that you can't trust
  10. Evan528

    Evan528 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,144

    I can fully understand your friend getting mad. I have severak good friends in this business and wouldnt take it too well if they offerd a job to one of my employees. If one of my buddies employees came to me looking to work for my company (has happened before) I would call my friend and ask him what he situation is with this guy. Never would I screw a friend over though and leave him understaffed and in a jam.

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