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stihl and echo engine comparison

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by buford24d, Sep 28, 2007.

  1. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,851

    Well what ever it is that I did to offend you, I apologize
  2. Juan_Deere

    Juan_Deere LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 301

    When I bought my 55 a couple of years ago, it came with both nozzles. Did my dealer screw up and give me both, or did the flat one being optional change recently?
  3. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Hey Buford, we're Lco's, not mechanics, we do what we can but we're still not auto shop owners. Some to most of us run synthetic oil and premium fuel and high performance parts to make sure it doesn't crap out, which means we need the right equipment first so that we CAN abuse it and I think we prefer those machines where all we do is dump fuel in the tank...
    And that's all most of us do, it's all we can do, spark plug and air filter and fuel is what we are limited to because it's not our problem.
    Or should we be asking what's a homeowner doing in the business owner section?

    Just messin' with ya

    Probably just different dealers, 10 bucks either way and I specifically asked for it, nice they threw it in for you thou.
  4. All_Toro_4ME

    All_Toro_4ME LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,578

    Both are good brands. Dont get hung up on the specs of this one has that, but that one has this. It can drive you crazy. I've used both brands and still do, and have never had a problem.
  5. nmurph

    nmurph LawnSite Senior Member
    from ga
    Messages: 668

    the 85 has a cat muffler, also. it also has cruise control, not a speed lock like the 55 and is only 4 ounces heavier than the 55. i tested both side-by-side. the 85 is more powerful. it was a no-brainer for me (some say that came naturally) and easily worth the $$. the output of the echos specs out closer to the 55 than the 85.
    buford, you might try a little less angry approach to your replies. i realize that eskis jumped a little hard. you are right that the 55 and 85 have the same displacement. it is reasonable to assume that the differences are in the jetting and the muffler. you have to let some of these things go. a short, pointed retort usually gets the point across. if it doesn't, ignore it and move on.
    there are lots of very knowledgeable folks on here and some that think they know everything. you may belong in the first category, but you first few post would lead most to believe that you belong to the latter. you join on thursday and immediately begin to pick fights. not the best move to win friends and influence people. not that you care to do either, i'm sure.
  6. Clem Clifford

    Clem Clifford LawnSite Member
    Messages: 13

    Well nmurph, I can understand why buford24d might get a little testy with the cold welcome he received from estrogen and the wise remarks you just made as well, but what singes the fur on my buttox is how you refer to us as homeowners. If it wasn't for homeowners giving you business, and they also keep the businesses you do open as well with their patronage, some of you would problably have to take up residence in the local Wamart parking lot where the only roof over your head is the pickup truck your sleeping in. I decided to take the liberty of e-mailing stihl and they told me the only difference between the BG55 and the BG85 engines are the mufflers. He said the 55 muffler is more restrictive than the 85. He said the block, carb,piston and crankshaft are the same parts. He said the impeller is also the same. The blower housing is different because of the cruise control and handle. Whether this fellow just came out of wearing diapers or not is irrelevant. I'm sure he probably referenced his material from the engineers that design the machines. I think they probably know a lot more about the technical aspects than us consumers do. Now I know a lot of you are probably a bit upset that you spent all of that extra money on the BG85 when all you had to do was gut out a restricted muffler, and I know you also probably feel cheated that your favorite manufacturer fooled you into spending all that extra money when you didn't have to, hell a hundred bucks buys a lot of cold Bud, But to jump all over a good old boy like buford24d is just shameless, and I think you all should give him a big old sorry buford. Now I would't blame hinm if he never came back, but that's just me. I'm sure buford24d is a better man than that, hell, probably better than all of us. Just my thoughts.
  7. nmurph

    nmurph LawnSite Senior Member
    from ga
    Messages: 668

    apparently you got that Bic to close to your brain when you were burning the hairs on your behind. no where in my post did i refer to you or Big B as such. if you actually took the time to read my post you would see that i defended B from eskis and agreed that the 55 and 85 are essentially the same machine, not withstanding their performance, which is like saying Rosanne and Heidi Klum.
    please, re-read the entire post, paying special attention to the last paragraph.
  8. Clem Clifford

    Clem Clifford LawnSite Member
    Messages: 13

    Well murph, I read it as I saw it. It looked as though you were calling buford24d a know it all. Some may not take that to kindly. Unless of course I misinterpreted you wrong. I was using som carb cleaner with the garage closed up earlier that night. At least I think it was that night. Say, what happened to that last post that Buford24d posted. That was funny. Are these moderators men or woman? Any way murph, sorry if I misread you.
  9. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,851

    Clem for the record I did apologize to Mr. B, so don't think I am a total prick.
  10. Clem Clifford

    Clem Clifford LawnSite Member
    Messages: 13

    Mr. escobar, I never insinuated that you were for one second, And I commend you for your apology. I apoligize for not mentioning that in my posting. Like I said, it's cold here and I may have used a bit too much carb cleaner that night, not to mention a couple of beer chasers afterwards. I say we let by gone's be by gones and get back to why we're all here in the first place. Talking and sharing our thoughts about one of our most prized possessions, Good old American lawn maintenance equipment.

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