Jeff--you are correct--I'm the one who misunderstood what he had to say about the other brands he had owned after the 90--sorry about that. This thread has gone on so long and drifted astray so many times I'm confused. And yes, grudges against equipment do seem to last a long time, but this is not new. My FIL was a Ford man until he died because of a bad experience with a Chevrolet 40 years earlier--wasn't sure what to think about his SIL (me) because I drove Chevrolets for years, now I drive Fords--go figure. One thing I'm pretty sure of--we'll never agree on equipment or most any other subject--when to buy vs repair, which model, which brand, WOT or not, oil brands, ratio for Amsoil--just to name a few. I know most of us would agree, we need to respect others in our approach to share information.