Stop fees added to application fee

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by greenngrow, Nov 5, 2002.

  1. greenngrow

    greenngrow LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 403

    I have been asking some of the guys in my area that apply pesticides are now adding a stop fee charge. The fee is anywhere from 10 to 20 dollars above the application fee.

    They are also raising the application fees. Right now I am at 3.00 per K more or less.

    Some of the guyshave raised to 5.00 per K on small area under 15,000 sq ft.

    I was wondering what other areas are doing??????
  2. Tvov

    Tvov LawnSite Bronze Member
    from CT
    Messages: 1,157

    What do you mean by a "stop fee charge"? Do you mean that if a customer decides not to use your services anymore, you will actually charge them for that???

    If that is what that means, I have not heard of it. If this is similar to cell phone contracts, that means you are using a yearly contract and there is an early termination fee?

    I would think that would be bad publicity. If that is what a stop fee charge is.
  3. greenngrow

    greenngrow LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 403

    What I am refering to is a fee that is added to the application charge.
    For example ..
    Customer A has a 10,000 sq ft lawn that you treat. You have a 5 round program. For every round you have a stop fee in addition to the treatment fee.

    The reason for this stop charge was due to the increase in gas prices last year.
  4. tremor

    tremor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,476

    It seems to me that labor should be $4/M regardless of material expense. That goes on top. To charge to stop the truck in front of someones house (whether you get out & walk around or not) goes without saying. If that truck & driver cost money (and they do), then someone has to pay for it.

    The concept of NOT raising prices when every expense a business incurs has increased, is insane.

    Don't think for a second that your customers are able to "negotiate" a better deal on even one of the other property expenses that they incur.

    Ever try to "negotiate" a lower price with a mortgage company? How about insurance? Water bill? Electric? Heating oil or gas?

    Whoever dreamed up the concept that service providers should consider themselves less important should be drawn & quartered. All the way to the bank too, I'll wager.

    Don't sell yourself short. Have some bal-s & charge whatever your time is worth. How you itemize it on the bill is your own business. but a flat increase of the service cost is the most forthright way to recover additional expenses. The cost of fuel has always been a part of all of our businesses. Today is no different than yesterday.

    We always charged for the stop if the customer canceled or delayed the application. We'd go to small claims court if they wouldn't pay & won about 3/4 of the time too. It was in the signed contract that written cancellations had to be received 48 hours prior to the truck rolling.

    That was 12 years ago. Did our industry get soft? When you need to, just raise the price. It works for every other expense a homeowner has. Why must we be different?

    I'm in the other side of the lawn care counter today. Starting the first of the new year, oiur Urea costs go up. So does the price of fertilizer.
    Shouldn't it?

  5. HBFOXJr

    HBFOXJr LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,712

    Call it what ever you like but that is more or less the way I do it. It covers the cost of of loading, mixing, driving etc. You have those costs no matter what.

    I charge $35 for the first 5K total. Surprsingly, on lawns larger than that the production time remains pretty constant per K. No matter whether it is 15K, 30K or 75K you only have 5K of aggravation or slow down app work. Of course there are ALWAYS variables but it has been going pretty smooth like that. I charge about $3k over 5k basic.
  6. dan deutekom

    dan deutekom LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 424

    We Have a minimum charge of $40.00 for anything less than 5k. Then we charge a per K over the 5.
  7. KLMlawn

    KLMlawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 443

    $35 minimun for 3K, then $5 per K thereafter ...., it used to be $30 for the first 3K until we were required to do the 48 hour Neighborhood Notification thing for sprays.
  8. PaulJ

    PaulJ LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,774

    This last leason I price $3-$4 per thousand (depending on dificulty/shape/amount of weeds) plus $15-$20 (depending on how much hard surface there was to blow off) for each step.

    I am going to try to get a little more scientific/accurate in my pricing next seasson, but will probably have a similar system.
  9. pyrocare

    pyrocare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 96

    Unfortunatly I would like to be able to charge $30 to $35 for a 5K lawn but the standard in this town is almost $25 for a 5-6K lawn. We have one company that charge extremely low prices across the board for the apps and areation.

    For the same lawn that I charge $25 to mow they charge $20 to aerate the lawn.:angry: The deal with this company is that they have over 150 customers and they have been around for over 10 years. I just wish that they would start to charge national industry standards instead of the low prices that they do.
  10. Harvestman

    Harvestman LawnSite Member
    Messages: 233

    In my area (southern ohio) big green will do a 5 k lawn for $24.95.Try to compete with that.

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