Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by question1, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. bohiaa

    bohiaa LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,220

    this is the way it is sometimes. I will go out on a limb here and say it's thin grass. NOT THICK. this too helps to add to the issue....

    if it's that much of a bother then double cut. or fert. it will help stringhten the blades.
    there simply being pushed over. NOT standing stright.

    Very common in the thiner grasses than thick.

    Best of luck
  2. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,177

    You can call them anything you like, the "Lone Ranger" if you wish, these people know what you mean.
  3. hate2work

    hate2work LawnSite Member
    Messages: 90

    Well, I didn't know what he meant, so I asked. And if he WOULD have called them the "Lone Ranger", I would have been even more confused :laugh:
  4. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Messages: 7,051

    yeah, you'd probably ask where Tonto is at.
  5. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,177

    Oh, I see now, 8 posts, you haven't been around the LawnSite lingo long enough. One lone (reason for Lone Ranger), stemmy weed or grass shoot can be your definition learned today.

    A slender or elongated structure that supports a plant or a plant part. When you mow over this vegetation and know beyond a shadow of doubt, the blades should have not left it uncut, yet on the next pass you see it standing, this is a "stringer, straggler, or Lone Ranger."

    Some mowers are worse about leaving them than others, and the lower cutting heights with sharp blades helps prevent this problem more than anything. A high suction deck with high lift blades also help a tremendous amount.

    Now, you have learned a great deal today about the meaning of "stringers, stragglers and the Lone Ranger." I hope this helped, now as the Lone Ranger would say to this thread, "Hi-yo, Silver, away!"
  6. Turf Dawg

    Turf Dawg LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,719

    I call them flags. What happens on thick nice St Augustine grass is that some of the blades can get covered up by other blades or the runners. When the other blades shade them they lay down instead of standing up. I have owned many mowers of different types, makes and models and can tell you from experience that the more lift the better, but I have not found a mower yet that will not leave at least some flags/stringers on the first cut. Like I have said before even with my Walker I still double cut some St Agustine grass at times when it is thick and growing good. You really are not missing as much grass as you think, it is just standing up after the other is removed. If you will notice that sometimes the flags/stringers are longer than the blades that you have cut off with a bend in some that have been held down from the other blades.
    Sorry that I cannot tell you how to solve this other than to double cut.
  7. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,592

    In 35 years we have not found a mower that doesn't leave some blades of grass uncut in St Augustine. The higher you cut the worse it gets and obviously at this time of year you are getting close to 4". We don't want to be running over the grass when it is hot and dry for double cut so the trim guys do their thing on any left.
  8. hate2work

    hate2work LawnSite Member
    Messages: 90

    Thanks for the education :drinkup:
  9. Damian

    Damian LawnSite Member
    Messages: 242

    I was going to reply yesterday but after just a couple of days off, could not remember if my Snappers' wheels extended in front of the blades or not (why does heat exhaustion take a pound of flesh but leaves the fat?).

    Working today on a very thick lawn, of course I realized I was right about what I suspected yesterday. I think the problem is two fold, at least on a healthy lawn. First, the wheels run over the grass, depressing them. Then, the mulching blades chop and dump the grass you're cutting back onto the grass, helping to depress them more. The fact you're walking behind, stepping on the grass and depressing/kicking off some of the mulched grass adds to the problem. Sometimes you're just cutting off too much of the blade, but you don't have a choice as the owner over waters/fertilizes and you run out of adjustments. And let's face it, since you're using a mulching blade, it doesn't have near the lift of the regular, or high vacuum blade, so the already cut grass and the fact that the wheels have pushed some grass down just compounds the problem. I've found that cutting lower, when the season allows for it, the problem isn't nearly as bad, but here in the midst of summer, when we're cutting as high as we can both because the lawn is tall and thick, thus requiring it, and dry as salt to help not stress it out as much due to the heat, it's inevitable.

    Wow, my painkillers have kicked in, so if my reply is rambling, well... that's part of the reason. It's time to lay down now.
  10. 4.3mudder

    4.3mudder LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,227

    Cutting high will leave them, versus cutting low will leave hardly any at all.

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