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Sun liquid washing detergent or SURFKING????

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by lorensanders, Mar 31, 2006.

  1. lorensanders

    lorensanders LawnSite Member
    Messages: 52

    Has anyone ever heard of using Sun washing detergent instead of using SURFKING ...........Some old man thats sprayed yards for twenty years told me it does exactly the same thind as SURFKING. He said to mix 1 quart per 100 gallons........

    Can someone please respond to this.....??? Is it true......\

  2. dcgreenspro

    dcgreenspro LawnSite Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 688

    never heard of surfking but soapflushing is a common practice to help identify soil dwelling insects. we used lemon joy in turf school ascts as an irritant/ repiratory problems caused and makes them come to the suface.
  3. lorensanders

    lorensanders LawnSite Member
    Messages: 52

    SURF-KING is a spreader activator with buffering agents.
  4. dcgreenspro

    dcgreenspro LawnSite Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 688

    sorry about that. didn't know you trying to compare the two. i read the question wrong;)
  5. garydale

    garydale LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 813

    Thats what we did when I started years ago.
    Yes, it works fine. It breaks the surface tension of the water(makes water wetter) for better contact etc.

    Commercial spreader/stickers have a few other advantages, but not enough to support the extra costs.
  6. upidstay

    upidstay LawnSite Bronze Member
    from CT
    Messages: 1,554

    For a surfactant, any non-detergant soap will do. Be careful not to use one with lots of additives. Good old ivory works great. Just watch out for foam when agitating.
  7. befnme

    befnme LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,413

    just about any dish detergent will work .
  8. GregoryR

    GregoryR LawnSite Member
    Messages: 39

    There is a difference between detergent and soap. In the old days it was always soap as an emulsifier/surfactant. Better stick with soap, white king, ivory etc., not detergent, dawn, ajax, etc.
  9. GreenUtah

    GreenUtah LawnSite Senior Member
    from SLC, UT
    Messages: 866

    I'd like to remind you of tank PH issues if you are planning on mixing with anything else. Most surfactants are used with control products, i.e. herbicides and insecticides to assist in penetration. Many of the soaps on the market are not designed, ph wise, to mix with other products beyond bleach or fabric softeners. In fact, many are very high PH and might lead to unintended results when mixed with ferts, 2,4-D or a host of other chemicals in our toolbox. Keep that in mind the next time you pay for your expensive chems and think about saving a dollar with something off label.
  10. turfsolutions

    turfsolutions LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 854

    I personally like palmolive.

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