i make it a strict rule, never to take advice from people who have failed in this business. they will never admit they FAILED, they all just say, "well, i sold my business to do something else. " or, "i got burned out". or, whatever. in my opinion, this all = YOU FAILED! i have exposure to about 5-6 failures in the lawn business. they all ran aground, for various reasons, yet can't seem to understand why. one guy PRICED himself out of business. yet my advice from him the other day was, "you shouldn't charge extra for leaves, i used to just suck them up with the mower, at no extra fee. this is why, you need a walker." another guy, "you shouldn't charge extra for weed and FEED, i never did, i just charged it as one application." another guy, " you can't charge per month, it isn't fair to the customer. you can only charge per cut. hey, there was one year, it rained so much, we cut about an average of one time per month. another year, it was so dry, we didn't cut at all in augest or september." so i asked, "what happened to your business?" he says, "oh, well, you can't make money in this bizness, i got a family to feed, i got a great job at xyz.......". they all failed, one way or another, YET, they are giving ME advice. silly, don't ya think? do YOU take advice from people who have failed?