Techo-Bloc Santorini

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by waltero, Mar 27, 2007.

  1. waltero

    waltero LawnSite Member
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    I have a walkway coming up in a few weeks and I have a question about this paver.

    I normally always add a soldier course to the walkways for the added strenght to the smaller pieces after cutting. For this paver it seems that it comes in a 80cm size and the only way I could do it is with a sailor course from the smaller pieces. This in my first time using this specific paver and I am concerned that it won't look good if I take out to many of the smaller pieces.

    I may just overlay and cut in place and any really small pieces that may move can get a little glue to hold it to the larger pieces. This is probably the route that I will take unless I get a better idea.

  2. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,260

    I did a walkway out of it last year. What i did was take out enough small peices for the boarder course. I think it came out great. Awesome looking stuff.
  3. McKeeLand

    McKeeLand LawnSite Senior Member
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    i had the same prob with Athena last year. it was like 2-5/8" for some stupid reason and nothing else they make comes in that size to use as border. we where luckley doing a raised patio and the cap would act as the border anyway, but i was afraid to use the 6x9 or what ever it was as the solider course for fear that i would need them in the field. i dont know why they do that. its not even 60 or 80 cm.
  4. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,637

    Personally, I do not think Santorini needs a border.

    The paver is intended to have a random, UN-STRUCTURED appearance. A Border gives a FINISHED look. To me, the Santorini would loose it's character if you tried to add a finished look to it.

    Santorini does not need a border.

    Soldier course borders are so yesterday.
  5. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    This is where we disagree. I think a boarder finishes the job. When ever i see any type of walk way without a boarder i am like :hammerhead: :hammerhead: I do not care if it is bluestone, pavers, etc. As long as its not irregular flagstone i'd would always use a boarder.
  6. cgland

    cgland LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I agree. And if borders are yesterday then every major manufacturer and their product catalogs are living in the past. (sailor or soldier)

  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Borders are an element of architecture.

    And this is where I get concerned with contractors with no knack for architecture.

    If you're working in a wooded, rustic setting, and doing a pavement with that is to resemble old world charm - a border would be the demise of the pavement.

    if you ever been to Europe - then you seen all those pavement with no borders!

    If you're doing a pavement for a home with contemporary elements - then the pavement should have contemporary elements, such as a border.

    An irregular, random laid stone patio typically does not get a border.

    Take techo's new paver - NATURA - how you gonna put a border with that?

    Something else I hate - is when people put borders on pavers where pavers meet walls. Borders should only go on OUTSIDE perimeters. Never along INSIDE perimeters.

    REGARDLESS, the Santorini does not need a border.
  8. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    Yea no way boarders are a thing of the past. If anything i think using differenty types of material as boarders will be the next thing. I like paver boarders on blue stone jobs. I am desiging a job right now with a clay paver boarder on a bluestone walk.

    No boarders against houses/walls?? See i think that looks half assed.
  9. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,637

    Chris - No where did I stated "borders are yesterday".

    I stated "Soldier course borders are so yesterday".

    And they ARE.

    There are so many ways to create a border without utilizing the Soldier course.

    Infact, Techo-Bloc is trying to get contractors to open their eyes and find other alternatives to soldier course borders.

    The Santorini doesnt need a border, and I've yet to see any pics in any marketing collateral depicting it used with a border.

    Just like some shirts are designed to be worn un-tucked.
  10. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,260

    Most of the time i use a sailor course anyway.

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