That's what I told one of my cousins today after he told me why he bought a new Deere 328 with pilot controls. He tried a Case 450 and hated it with a passion. It was tippy, the cab felt like sitting in a dwarf sh*tter and it was loud. He couldn't get used to the H pattern and it wasn't available as Vertical Path, and to top it off, the dealership sent it out on demo with no added counterweights, d-uh, if you send a machine out on a farm that you know damn well is going to be used for loading wet corn silage, add them on. Idiots. He liked the Deere better, more power in the lift and wider cab and better visibility. The depressing thing is, he never considered a Cat 272C, he wasn't even aware of the fact that there was a 90 hp Cat skid steer, a part of me almost died, another lost soul wandering away from the Church Of Cat. Funny thing, he tried out my Cat on the job, first thing he says is: "holy sh*t, this thing is quiet inside the cab, you can just barely hear the engine, and no hydraulic noise". So I gave him the 10 cent tour, showed him the radiator design, he said right away that Cat's is the best, no double stacking and the engine bay is easier to get inside of, the sight lines to the tracks were better compared to the non-existent view lines of the Deere. So, now he secretly wants a Cat, but the 30 day money back guarantee has also expired on the Deere. Tough. But, thanks for not buying a Bobcat.