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The economics of wire?

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by NightLightingFX, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. NightLightingFX

    NightLightingFX LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 580

    I am curious do any of you have a good system on managing the use of your wire. What do you do with your scraps? Any way to avoid scrapes? I always make sure I have a little more wire on home run that I accually need, but the scraps add up. Do you guys use the scraps for leads on future fixture installations? Right now all I ever use for home runs is 12 ga. and I will use 16 ga for leads that I need to add on fixtures that don't come with long leads. Some times I will use 12 ga. on a lead for a fixture if I am a long way a way from my hub. What do you guys do?
    ~Ned
    www.nightlightingfx.com
     
  2. klkanders

    klkanders LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 849

    Same as you. Occasionally I will run a 10ga home run but its mostly 12. Since I am still a one man show I can throw in any left over 12 ga. and use it if possible. When using hub method with short line fixtures I add on with 16 or 18 ga wire using a waterproof end to end splice thats crimped then heated to shrink around wire. Very cost effective.
     
  3. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,843

    You could always take your scraps to a recycling facility.
     
  4. NightLightingFX

    NightLightingFX LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 580

    Chris,
    I have thought about that. Have you done that? Can you get very much for landscape wire? and is it a hassle to do?
    ~Ned
    www.nightlightingfx
     
  5. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Kingsland, Texas
    Messages: 2,214

    I donate my scrap wire to a local deaf/mute who sells it for scrap. I hear that copper is going for $3 lb. That's pretty good!!
     
  6. JackTorsed

    JackTorsed LawnSite Member
    from Utah
    Messages: 57

    That's very charitable of you. I give all my recyclable bottles and cans to my helpers.
     
  7. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,645

    that copper has got to be worth something, they are stealing it out of houses here on new construction.
     
  8. ar-t

    ar-t LawnSite Member
    Messages: 49

    This is the worst year I have ever seen for copper risers being stolen from irrigation systems. Churches.............private residences......they steal from all of them.

    My scrap goes into a box in the truck. I cull out the good pieces for pigtails, the rest goes to the recycler.
     
  9. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    We have an offsite warehouse to house all of our raw goods and it has been broken into once this summer. They took a bunch of raw copper goods. We filed a police report and notified all the recycling plants around. We sent pictures of the parts stolen. They ended up busting the guy and recovering most of our goods in a few days about 40 miles from our factory. It was about $2000 worth of recycled copper.

    It is getting ugly, I thinkt hey are giving $2.50lb here for copper.
     
  10. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,843

    I don't currently do it, but I'm going to start. I hear you can get some pretty decent money out of it. We yank a bunch of jobs out of the ground, and I've just thrown it away in the past. To me, this is wasted money. At $3 per pound, this will add up quick. And it isn't a hassle; just keep dumping it into some type of container until it's full and take it in! The facility will do the rest.
     

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