the ultimate in durability and wear resistence

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by TClawn, Dec 18, 2004.

  1. TClawn

    TClawn LawnSite Silver Member
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    I need to figure out what warm season grass has the most durability and wear resistaence. All I want is your guys opinions on what would do well.

    here is what it will be used for.

    1. sports field for foot ball and soccer.

    2. resess field for kids at school.

    3. large gatherings about 4 times a year.

    right now in our current location we have a St. augustine, seashore paspalum and crab grass mix. lol.

    right now the st. augustine is just about worn to dirt. the seashore is hurting but will probably come back during chistmas break, and the crab grass is doing ok but is definatly showing signs of wear.
  2. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
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    bermuda is the turf of choice on high traffic areas.
    419 tifway, tifsport ( don't know the #)
    caviler, etc.

    the hybred bermuda's are the toughest grasses you can get.
    the myer dirivative zoysia's are a close second. they will tolerate shade where bermuda will not.

    st aug. is the worst choice as it only spreads via stolons ( shoots above the ground). there is no rhizome spreading at all (below ground).

    both the bermuda and zoysia's are stoloniferous and rizhomatus
  3. ouimguy

    ouimguy LawnSite Member
    Messages: 19

    Hybrid bermuda is the way to go but pricey, just try a bermuda grass that you can get in both sod and seed. That will allow you to put sod down for quick coverage AND be able to spot seed in heavy wear areas.
  4. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
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    bermuda expensive???
    mabey there , but here 419 is the cheapest sod you can buy.
    one reason why is becuase they sell a ton of it, and second becuase it grows back so darn fast from rhizomes they can harvest the same field 2x/year.

    i will bet it's pricey there cuase there are not alot of warm season grasses used in lawns.
  5. TClawn

    TClawn LawnSite Silver Member
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    I know that I can't seed the myer zoysia. but can I seed the tifsport or tifway 419?
  6. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
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    most of the hybred bermudas are sterile.
    they have some new strains out now that can be seeded.

    if you need to seed, just use common bermuda.
    it does not produce as fine of a turf, but it is very durable
  7. quiet

    quiet LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 720

    You may have to sit down with a pen and paper and do some calculations if you're considering seeding a common Bermuda variety vs. sodding with a hybrid. Bermuda seed can take up to 3 weeks to geminate and needs to be kept moist. Lotta water for a big area.

    During that 3 weeks you can have weeds invade, and /or have the seed wash off or run off into low spots from a heavy rain.

    And as Yardpro states, you'll have a turf that's not near as nice as one of the hybrid bermudas.
  8. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
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    ronstar can be applied to keep the weeds out,
    BUT i always recommend sod.

    i feel it takes the same $ to get seeded grass to sod quality ( if you ever can) as it does to lay the sod. The money is just spread out over a longer peroid.

    call some local sod farms ( if any there) and get some information. They should be able to steer you in the right direction.
  9. Grassboy 101

    Grassboy 101 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 23

    Bermuda is definitely the most traffic tolerant of the warm-season grasses.
    Be aware that in order to maintain coverage it must also receive a large amount of water. With an area used for daily recess periods this creates a major problem. I have yet to see an elementary school ground that will with stand the type of punishment you have described with out bare spots.
    Check with turf suppliers in your area. Have them come out survey your situation and make recommendations for grasses. Not only for the type but have them give you a written schedule for maintenance. Good Luck.
  10. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    I really wish I could help, as I know absolutely NOTHING about warm season grasses. Come to think of it...I know absolutely nothing about COOL season grasses, either! ;)
    I WILL be watching this thread, though. I just may learn something from this just as an "FYI" (occasionally, something happens and I DO comprehend something).

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