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Just thought I’d give you Yankees a laugh. DBY’s who needs em, run out of wire nuts? Just bury it. No white wire, just use red. 1 screw is all you need to hang a clock. Who knows why the mag starter doesn’t work? Bubblers make great spray heads. Deep valves ? Safety first. Anyway enjoy.
 

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Fraid this stuff is everywhere. I'd guess In most cases there's no code (or enforcement) for irrigation.

What's the deal with the valve box? Simple not covered back up?
It is everywhere. This is a result of shoddy service work over the years. The valve box was originally at the bottom of the hole, I had the guys raise the valve and level the valve box. We have since added dirt leveled it out. While frustrating, most of what we have is sand, so sorting these issues out is usually not that difficult.
 

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For the most part any Joe Knucklehead can wake up and say "I'm an irrigation ex spurt/ company". And like many other things in the landscape biz the cheapest price wins the job. But of course this is not the long term recipe for success.
Most of these repairs are on 30 year old systems that have been patched over and over. We get almost no down time on the irrigation as we run it all year long. We have good contractors down here , but when it comes to wiring ‍♂ Most techs don't understand it. I have more than 1 system run completely on Nodes (30-60 zones). Once the wires get F'd up it's almost impossible to fix. And running a new 2-wire is not in the budget. Anyway, always fun to get something back on the clock.
 

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FL im going to go out on a limb here:

I like you, your humble: you've suggested (albeit via inversion) good and proper techniques instead of shod.
You've so far made no arrogant claims of being the best, but something tells me there's more to you, and that you have been doing this for a long time, and have alot to offer.

We have a friend, he isnt with us here unfortunately but has transferred to the upper room, re-united with his dogs, by the name of Mike Leary---who would post pictures of rare and inspiring wiring work. It pushed us all to be better ourselves.

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given that you are humble, i figure its unlikely that you will post your own versions of these,

that is,
until we re-calibrate you to view such a showing-off as teaching us, rather than bragging to us (which i think you've been avoiding)

You've been immersed in irrigation for a long time I'm suspecting?
You kind of lost me there. I enjoy what I do and I really love figuring out wiring issues. With the exception of the valve box , there are just things I have come across in the last 2 months. My guys, in general don't care much, good guys, but really don't care. I simply thought a group of professionals would find some humor in these photos. I know most people don't deal with the pump issues that we do down here, but shoddy work is the same anywhere.

And , most of y'all are freezing and in snow. Just kind of a little pick me up for y'all. Your season is coming.

I am not trying to brag ? 24v wiring is the same as 208 or 240v 3-phase. Most of y'all would have this stuff figured out in about 10 min, it all works the same.

ok, now I'm going to brag. Y'all definitely don't have the helpers we do. :)
 

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Yall's turtles are huge.

I agree your hack finds are definitely worthy of Hall of Hacks and Pikers
https://www.lawnsite.com/threads/hall-of-hacks-pikers-photos-please.332611/
And more concentrated in one user than usual.

Which is exactly why I suspect you've seen more good and bad than most, its all a ratio, and: The more one sees of one, almost by natural law, the more one must encounter of the other.

Have patience with me please,
while the first line of this post IS,
please don't mistake my earlier post for sarcastic, my friend, life is too short for that.

Im really glad your here and i think we have alot to learn from you.

In your opinion, why was the indexing valve so popular in FL?
Yes, I definitely have a bit of a sarcastic outlook, it really wasn't meant that way, should have sounded more , frustrated.

Index valves were the rage along the panhandle in the 90's when I lived there. Why? I don't know , except they were cheap, easy to install, no valves/wires. We moved to Atlanta and spent almost 20 years there, coming to central Florida I asked why there weren't any down here. Failure rate and pain to repair were the answers I got. That's all I can tell you.
 

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One of my earliest instructions was a irrigation video series by a Floridian irrigator, back in the DVD by mail times. Youtube didnt have anything then. (Although, come to think of it, He didn't mention indexing valves on video)

I like the electrical torubleshooting as well, but just conventional 24v.
Do you deal with alot of two wire? There was a gentleman here not long ago that was having some trouble with a zone 11 coming on with zone 12, but 11 would run alone, or vice versa. He may have figured it out by now.

I wish i had more experience in 2 wire, but unfortunately i haven't practiced with it at all yet.
I have almost zero 2-wire experience. We have 1 community of about 20 houses where the install contractor ran the 2-wire right through the middle of all the backyards. Every few months someone adds a pool and we have to go out and cut and reroute the line. No issues so far.
 

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Cleaned up as best I can and running. Added a master valve and tank because the whole place runs on nodes. With the master valve I can at least control the days that I water, and mainline breaks are limited to the hours the master is on. Not perfect by any means but about the best we can do with nodes.
 

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Found this today on one of my properties. It’s been on nodes for 7 years or so, clocks are long gone, wires are unfixable at this point. But more than likely a lot of this could have been saved if not for the splices. 2- regular wire nuts and what looks like a telephone wire splice ? Always remember , your splices are more often than not the key to your success.
 

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Finally, you give me an opportunity.

In this photo we see the smart contractor has temporarily capped the outlet at the spot where he is digging to prevent further debris from entering that causes the issues mentioned in the recent post regarding a stuck, or gap-toothed rotor.
I wish I could take the credit that way, but sadly not the case. We had the last 6 heads in this zone with no pressure. The line ran under 3 Live oaks and was pinched somewhere. We capped all but 2 heads and ran drip. Not much else to do without replacing the whole line.
 

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Palm tree roots can be invasive. 30 heads on this zone along a parkway. Roots will crawl in through the heads. Shocking that nobody noticed the zone wasn’t working for the 2 years or so it took to create this kind of problem.
 

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I forgot about this one. 1 submersible pump , 2 clocks , 2 pump starts, all wired together , what a mess. Yes , they blew up the pump. Replaced the pump and cleaned the mess up.
 

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