Thinking about buying a L or LN 8000 Ford

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Gravel Rat, Aug 18, 2002.

  1. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    Well I have been thinking about it and I was gonna buy a tandem or a F-350 and now my old man thinks I should buy a single axle 5 ton.

    The truck I'am looking for will be a L-8000 12+23 axles 8v71 power and a Roadranger transmission if I get a truck with a wheelbase close to my 450 I still can get into the same places with a bigger truck. The 450 is good but a guy can't carry enough material on the truck because people usually want 3 yards and thats 9000 lbs on a 1.5 ton truck which is too heavy.

    I'am not worried that this truck is over CDL because I'am already a commercial driver.

    Have any of you guys driven a L-8000 Ford single axle and what are they like ? I have driven L-9000 tandems seemed tobe fine a bit rough rider.

    I figure I should get more work with this truck because I can get into places where a tandem can't go or where people people only want 1 to 6 yards of material.

    What do ya think my F-450 might be gone (Sold) next week so its time to look for a replacement truck.
  2. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,411

    I drive a 1989 L8000 with the Ford diesel (210 hp) and 5x2 transmission.

    IMO the truck is woefully underpowered and/or undergeared for its weight capacity (44,000 lbs).

    For a little more money I'm sure that there are better choices.
  3. Randy J

    Randy J LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,124

    Buy a Dodge!!!

    I would actually consider an equivilent size International with the the T446 engine.
  4. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    I though about International but the 466 doesn't have a JAKE brake available and thats needed on a truck with a 35,000 pounds gross. I would like to find a L or LN 8000 with either 290/300 Cummins power (10L engine) or a 8v71 Detroit (568 Cid) because both of these engines have JAKE heads available. I have found a International 2574 with 6v92 power 13sp Road ranger with 35,000lb gvw but from the picture it looks like shes got some cab rust.

    What I'am after is a short truck that can haul more weight than my 450 and still beable to get into the places the 450 will go its just not economical to run a 450 for the jobs I get. The Louisville Fords seem to make the best single axle dumps because they have the high cab (good visability) and parts are easy to get.

    I will just have to keep searching its gonna be hard to find one without the rotten Cat and 5+2 transmission.
  5. southside

    southside LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    Most of the LNT 8000 series had the V8 Cat motors. If you're
    looking for something without those horrible 5x2 gearboxes then
    you may have to look at a tandem. Over here the LNT 8000 in a
    tandem is very common. Usually have the hopeless 3208 Cat
    motor,but they make up for it by having a 13 speed roadranger
    as standard.
    If you really must have a jake brake then you may have to get
    a LNT 9000 instead. Standard setup here for those is a Cummins
    V903 @ 300hp with 15 speed roadranger.
  6. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    What I may do it find a L-9000 tandem with a 300 Cummins and take the rear tandems off and shorten the frame and put a single axle in the back. I think its the only way to make a heavy duty single axle I really don't want a 5+2 and the Cat . Doing the project shouldn't cost that much just finding all the parts needed todo the project.

    One of the local excavation contractor here used to have a L-8000 tandem with a 3208 and it was a dog the truck was way underpowered he sold the truck quickly it was more of a hazzard to the road.
  7. southside

    southside LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    Yeah, the V8 Cats were a bit ordinary. Have you considered going to a single drive cabover like an Isuzu or Mitsubishi? Very
    tough and reliable.Heaps of power and quite comfortable.
  8. lawnjob

    lawnjob LawnSite Member
    Messages: 19

    An older Mack R model 6 wheeler with the 250hp six and 5speed w/low hole is quite a stout truck. Dynatard is their version of Jake brake. Mack trannies and rears are nearly bulletproof.
  9. gslam88

    gslam88 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 146

    I am a little confused; you say that you want either a L/LN8000 or a F-350. The class 8 ln8000 vs. class 3 pick up for possibly doing the same work Why limit yourself if you have to? You even know the weight problem

    "The 450 is good but a guy can't carry enough material on the truck because people usually want 3 yards and thats 9000 lbs on a 1.5 ton truck which is too heavy. "

    And around here DMV (dept of motor Vehicles) looks for those overweight trucks, and usually at about $1 a pound it can get expensive.

    Depending on the body size, a 5-7 yard body is 10 feet and can hold just about 10 yards, good body size for larger residential work.

    You also don't want a v8, stay a straight 6 and stay away from the 3208. not a good choice the 3406 is a much better motor, just not easy to find in the light class trucks.

    Also some of the LN models do come with disc brakes, I would opt for air.

    Have you looked into the Kenworth T300 some do come with a jake brake

    As far as needing a jake brake, it might be nice but not always needed. I have an International 4900 w/466 34k gvw and no jake it does just find for hauls up to 10 yards of dirt. As far as getting into places just by sheer weight alone their are times that any truck loaded at 30k plus cant get where a pu can get. And for parts and dealer availability I have never had a problem with the International.

    The other thing to consider is the lightweight of the truck vs. the gross weight. My international has a lightweight of 13k and a gross of 34K. I think that some of the fords are closer to 15K and still at 34k so you might just lose 2k or more depending on how it lays out. Just food for though and my opion

    Not everone will agree with what I have said, but its what I believe and what I would do in your shoes in my opion.

  10. hosejockey2002

    hosejockey2002 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Karl- here in the states the Izuzu trucks are common, but most are box trucks. Izuzu dump trucks are pretty rare. Do you guys think a 3208 cat might be adequate in a 5 yard with a Roadranger trans? I've never driven a real truck with a 3208, just buses with automatics. They are pretty slow when loaded, but smooth and very good on fuel. I used to drive a 10 yard KW with a 3406 425hp cat with a 15 speed RR and it hauled a**!

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