Thinking of going to peace work

Discussion in 'Employment' started by C&C Landscaping, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. C&C Landscaping

    C&C Landscaping LawnSite Member
    Messages: 105

    Thinking of going to peace work for our mowing crews.
    Anyone doing this?
  2. rclawn

    rclawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 753

    I made the switch from a more violent approach on the lawns several years ago and haven’t looked back! Employees used to be instructed they were launching an attack on the grass, which resulted in more enthusiasm, speed of work etc. But too many were killing spots with string trimmer so now we promote ourselves as being one with the lawn. We liken it to us as a team, working to maintain and preserve grass rather than reduce it.
  3. TPendagast

    TPendagast LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 16,092

    It’s piece work btw

    Otherwise you’d be hiring a gang of hippies
  4. Mark Stark

    Mark Stark LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 668

    Tie dyed mowers and drum circles during lunch breaks!:laugh:
  5. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,504

    OK... what is "Piece Work"?
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  6. hort101

    hort101 LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from S.E. New England
    Messages: 18,037

    Sounds like my kind of company culture
    Where can I sign up?:cool2:
  7. kemco

    kemco LawnSite Silver Member
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    OakNut... We don't do it (yet) but I do like the concept. Instead of an hourly wage, the employee would get $X per lawn or it might be different per lawn or job. Then at the end of the work week you then convert back to an hourly wage by using some arbitrary per hour wage rate (as long as it is at least min wage). Ideally promotes faster work because the faster the crew can get the job/jobs done the more they earn per hour . Let's say the end of the work week and all has been completed in 30 hours of actual work. Based on what employee earned piece meal they are to be paid $500 gross. Your arbitrary hourly rate for them has been set at $13 per hour. $500/$13= 38.46 hours is what you pay them for (even though they only worked 30 hours). At least that's my understanding and my CPA said there was no prob doing it that way should I want to. My hang up is let's say you run a 3 person crew but one guy is the slow poke holding every other person up... or at least that's what the other two crew are telling you. What then.
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  8. That Guy Gary

    That Guy Gary LawnSite Silver Member
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    How many hours do your guys normally work a week?

    Are they responsible for any duties that don't directly create revenue, like maintenance on their equipment?

    In the US you are still responsible for paying OT for piece work and still owe wages for any other work they do. It's honestly a bit of a bother if your employees regularly work a decent amount of OT or have other duties.
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  9. Tara Ann

    Tara Ann LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 666

    We are working on a "Piece Sharing Program." Does anybody have one of those set in place?

    @snomaha mentioned a company savings account earlier; it read to be something that would serve both the employee, and the employer, as a benefit.
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  10. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
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    And once you're into piece work, OT is no longer strictly time and a half an hourly rate. It is based on their wages\40 hours then 1.5.
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2018
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