Ok...here is the outline for the bid. I usually don't need help with this sort of thing but this one is stumping me. I always try to help other posters out with bids so what would YOU bid? This is verbatim: Bid 1: "Trash to be picked up and hauled away. Mowing and trimming will include the front entrance and landscaping Mowing will be done on "as needed". This is usually once a week during the growing season and during "Hot" weather every 10 days. NO MOWING will be done in less than 1 week intervals unless authorized. Care of landscaping will include watering, pulling of weeds, pruning if needed and picking up trash. Watering will only need to be done if we get very little rain and or during "Hot" months (usually July and August). This is the second season the landscaping has been in place so the roots are still not developed. Soaker hoses are located under the mulch in the three main ares so you don't have to be present during this watering except to change to a different soaker hose. The tree will have to be watered separately. Water is available with a hose and reel for use at xxx residence. The Flower Boxes located on the concrete landing area will need to be watered more frequently than the other landscaping. During the "hot season" the flowers will need to be watered once or twice or maybe even three times a week. Weeds will need to be pulled in the area of the flowers. When considering your bid include the care of the landscaping since this is not a weekly job with the mowing. xxx homeowners association is not responsible for accidents or broken equipment. Your bid $___ per mowing including trimming and (include care of landscaping) for the 2008 season. " Bid 2: "All supplies and equipment will be furnished by the bidder. Pickup and haul away trash from ditches and lawn. The primary ditch will be mowed or use of trimmer ONLY if over 12 inches high (city usually keeps the ditch mowed that runs across the primary property). Spraying of the ditch needs to be done at the beginning of the growing season and then as needed to keep the ditch looking groomed. Will need authorization on additional spraying after first application. Trimming around meter box lift station, signs and other stationary items will also be included. Mowing will be done on "as needed basis" in which you will be notified when to mow. This is usually once a month. xxx HOA is not responsible for accidents or broken equipment. Your bid will be for one mowing per month or as requested when to mow -- include trimming in your bid price. Spraying needs to be bid per treatment. mowing $___ Spraying / app $____ " So to me it is a HUGE PIA, however, I see it more as an opportunity to service the residents residence. Bid one's mowing area is about 1380 sqft. There is about a dozen planted plants and one tree. The "planter boxes" are not out so I have no idea how many there are. Bid two's mowing area is ~1.5 ac. with very minimal trimming. The ditch is about 2 feet wide by 382 feet long. I have this part pretty well figured out but give me your input anyway.