This is gonna sound stupid, but...

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by mulchmaster, Apr 4, 2007.

  1. mulchmaster

    mulchmaster LawnSite Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 212

    This may sound stupid, but I have a question. I have a large mulch job set for fri and sat and we have a freeze warning for the next couple nights, lows in the low to mid 20's. I wandered if I should hold off untill next week, for two reasons. 1 Somewhere I heard you should not mulch if the ground is frozen, 2. we are planting perennials and I don't want to put them in just yet, due to the cold temps. I don't think that it will get cold enough to really freeze the ground, but I would like to hear what you guys think. This is a new customer, and I want to keep her happy, but I don't want to screw anything up.
  2. PaperCutter

    PaperCutter LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,996

    We don't typically plant perennials before May 1, and we're a lot warmer than you guys in OH.

    Never heard the mulch thing. Any idea why they say that?

  3. mulchmaster

    mulchmaster LawnSite Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 212

    I am not sure what it would hurt, but that's just what I heard.

    I agree with not planting the perrenials untill later, but you know how some customers are. She just moved in last fall and wants it done asap.

    Thanks andrew
  4. delphied

    delphied LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,067

    You will have dead plants if you plant now. You prolly are a month too early on the plants,maybe even 6 weeks unless they get covered when needed. Up here in Michigan we can get frost in the first week of june and that kills em.
  5. DiyDave

    DiyDave LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,695

    If you mulch over frozen ground, it will take longer for it to thaw out, and you will be planting into ice cubes!
  6. green horizons

    green horizons LawnSite Member
    from zone 5
    Messages: 144

    The mulching should be fine, but the plants won't appreciate the weather. Will they die? Maybe, maybe not. But they are perennials, and if you don't plant them, they'll just be sitting at the nursery waiting for the next landscaper. I'd advise the customer to wait (even if only a week). If they don't go for the dealy, document your gaurantee (of lack there of) and supply the products and service.
  7. fishman644

    fishman644 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 46

    There will be plenty of time for the ground to thaw. I wouldnt consider planting until at least the first of may
  8. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,649

    I agree they will die. But 3 years ago i watched 1 our premier landscapers plant a new bank for opening in jan. His guys actualy had to use pics in the frozen ground and planted spierra, orn. grass, evergreens, etc. and they all did well. If i would try that they would of all died.
  9. BD Bone

    BD Bone LawnSite Member
    from USA
    Messages: 53

    I have had concerns about putting mulch down w/the moisture and snow because of mold concerns. That would be the only reason for holding off on that too. I agree w/the perennials... to delay the planting. But, to elaborate on Mike33's comment about the landscaper planting in Jan... some types of trees and ornamentals are "dormant" during late fall and winter and contrary to belief, that is one of the best times to plant. Now, this is not the case for every plant/tree or every situation and of course it depends on how cold or how much ice. If in doubt, consult the nursery for one of their experts to advise you and make recommendations. Ideally, we obtain our plants from a large nursery and for us to meet warranty requirement, you must follow advise on planting to receive any warranty should the plants die. Just an FYI.
    Good luck
  10. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,649

    Thanks for reading and commenting on my post. That was actually done and i couldn;t belive it. But you made a point i never thought of about some being dormat and not hurting them.

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