this is how charging hrly can kill you

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by bobbygedd, Apr 26, 2005.

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  1. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
    Messages: 10,178

    i timed myself, i trimmed: 2 arbs, 5 gold thread cypres, 4 blue girl holly, pruned and trimmed one snow ftn cherry, trimmed 4 crimson barberry. the total was 22 minutes. add another 10 min for cleanup=about 32 minutes. now, at an hourly rate of even $75 an hr, i'm at about $39 for the job. this is where hourly will kill you. my trimmers cost $675. do i really even want to start them for $39? and the more experienced you are, the less you make?
  2. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
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    Bobby, 39 bucks would be 2 to 2.5 hours worth of shrub trimming in my area. Jersey, here I come!
  3. crosson lawn

    crosson lawn LawnSite Member
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    are u out of your mind 39 bucks for 2hours work. anyway this is why we should bid by the job. and i hear sometimes, "Oh, thats way out of range" and i always out of range of what and they say what the people doing it now get. and i say, and this is what everyone should say, that is not out of my range that is what i am willing to do it for and will be happy to do a good job and not try to do a rush job on your yard. and if thats what the other guy is getting let me have his number so i can hire him to do my work and i will still make money.

    So if qualitylawncare4u if u ever want a vacation or relocate to florida look me up i got about 3 days of hedges i will give you 25 bucks an hour to do them for me.
  4. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
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    Nope, not out of my mind. Thats why I have just about completely eliminated shrub work for me. The same people who will pay you to do a yard at a decent price expect shrubs to be done for less than minimum wage. The few I have left pay what I demand which is 40 bucks an hour (which is good for my area, not for some of you others though).Beside, I hate shrub work bad enough to dont care whether I get it or not.
  5. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
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    BTW, their are/were times I would be extremely happy at 25 per hour!
  6. Duramax99

    Duramax99 LawnSite Member
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    Bobby when you get those kinds of jobs pretend you are working for the man and take your time.

    then bill accordingly

    LAWNS AND MOWER LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,129

    This is why I have a 1 hr minimum for any job I do.
  8. Todd's lawncare

    Todd's lawncare LawnSite Senior Member
    from P.A
    Messages: 548

    Well what did you make ????????? 200 ????????????????
  9. Green-Pro

    Green-Pro LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I have charged by the hour and by the job (depends on what the job is) One thing I took it in the shorts on once and only once was not having a minimum. I put that policy into effect right away. Had a bring top soil (about 6 wheelbarrows full) grass seed and starter fert request, it was so small I didn't bother to measure it, charge $250, time to complete 1.5 hour. I've had much larger seeding jobs that when bid came out only about $200 more than this one and were much larger. Thing is I don't mind doing the small jobs if you don't mind paying me, if you do simple get another estimate.

    Not trying to be hardcase here but I'm not running a charity and if you want me to mess around with a $40-$50 dollar job when I could be on to something more profitable then you will pay the minimum, period.

  10. crawdad

    crawdad LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Hourly is for employees. Small job like that would have been quoted at about $100. Take it or leave it. The reason so many people don't like shrub work is because they're scared to charge for it.
    I like shrub work. payup

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