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thoughts on ConExpo

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by ksss, Mar 25, 2011.

  1. ioilyouin

    ioilyouin LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 710

    Everyone might already know this,
    My wife's cousin works for Cat and he claims that Asians had completely dissassembled a D6 for instance and reverse engineered it. They went so far as to take molds where necessary and not even remove casting numbers on their new parts. Dirty, Dirty, Dirty!...if it is true.
  2. hvy 1ton

    hvy 1ton LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 582

    The deere guy that slammed the door was talking same stuff. Moldlines, extraneous machining, matching bolt patterns, ect.
  3. Jim385

    Jim385 LawnSite Member
    from SE PA
    Messages: 60

    I guess there is no such thing as Patent laws in China? I can't understand how they can get away with carbon copy machines.:confused:
  4. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,151

    Terex had a big display area. I spoke with a guy that used to be an engineer with them and now is the North American market manager (not exact title but his exact title escapes me).

    I chatted with him for about a half an hour. Very cool guy. He stated that Terex sold off O&K which provided them with money to make huge improvements to the remaining product line especially the TLB and develop the skid steer as well as others. The TLB is designed especially for the NA market and spec wise goes head to head with the market leaders. Their marketing was evident at ConExpo since they had signage all over the BH about better breakout then CASE, more ground clearance then CAT etc. He said that he really likes working for Terex. He likes their committment to improving the product and working with the customer. It sounds like sound bits when I write it, but the guy seemed very genuine. I expressed what Dig Deep and I have discussed reference CAT's use of their ASV undercarriage and the damage that did to their credibility for their machines. Since the average customer doesn't know the whole story. He totally agreed with that position.

    I came away impressed with my small interaction with the Terex representatives. I think they are consolidating and making the products that they do produce better. He did not see them offering full size excavators anytime soon. He said things come up and that may change but at the moment that was not a plan. He went on to say but as you know Terex has the process of aquiring other OEMs down to a science. Had to agree with that.
  5. talus

    talus LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    I guess you could say "You are starting the see the white" :clapping:
    Wish I could have been there to bust your balls in person.:laugh::drinkup:
  6. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Germany
    Messages: 1,892

    These three posts actually reflect what I ignored -- I was focusing on the major brands who have significant growth aspirations... not necessarily anyone who only wants to rip off the Western makes. There's likely to be a small percentage of fakes/ripoffs that are separate from the XCMG, Sany, Liugong, and other reputable manufacturers.
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2011
  7. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,151

    LOL! Lets not getting carried away. I liked this guys interpratation of what Terex was about, but I am not trading in my Power Tan just yet. When I asked who the dealer was in Idaho for Terex he said something like D&S diesel service (not sure that was the exact name but something like that). Ah of course! Who else would it be?.:nono:

    ASV could use some help on some design issues on their skid steer, but their backhoe seemed pretty solid.
  8. talus

    talus LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    :laugh: Hey all I'm saying is a 100G would look very nice behind your mulcher or snow blower. I'd like to see Terex buy out IHI. Maybe they will instead of the ASV proposed mini that is/was supposed to be coming out.
  9. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,151

    Now thats a good idea!
  10. Tigerotor77W

    Tigerotor77W LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Germany
    Messages: 1,892

    Hey Shane -- do you know of the Case 1021 and 1121 loaders are Case designs or if they're like the 1221 and based on Hyundai loaders?

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