And those machines suffered and where very limited as the latest round of skids where S185's, if my memory is spot on. The thing wants to flip if you lift a small diesel generator let alone a tent lol. Granted I Bobcat's have their place but we don't use ours for anything much anymore other than lifting pallets and plowing snow. I think that they kept bobcat around because all the skid attachments are bobcat as well. Are unit messed up, we took delievery of 3 Bobcats a month before CASE signed the deal.