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three wheel riders

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by dbear, Sep 14, 2002.

  1. dbear

    dbear LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 606

    Hello, all. I'm looking at replacing my aged and now dead ransomes 3-wheeler I use personally for approx 3 acres.

    I demoed a ztr (Scag) and although impressed with speed, quality of cut, and handling, I did not like the ride, having to keep both hands on the controls at all times (although, I probably, with more practice, could master one-handed operation), nor ducking under limbs I wouldn't normally have to. I also didn't like not being able to reach under tress to cut down on extra trimming. Consequently, I have decided to purchase another 3-wheeler.

    That said, my questions are: (1) Who else make these besides Exmark, Ferris, Gravely, Scag, and Simplicity (Ferris)?; and (2) Anybody have any feedback or preferences specific to this stlye machine? My "specs" are 60" - 61" deck and a 20hp minimum. Parts and service are not an issue as all named brands have adequate representation on my area. Thanks...
  2. You think so huh? I had out front decks years ago, just the time difference makes up for the little bit of extra trimming.

    You also learn to make it do almost all the things you have dicribed.

    Better get a long demo to find out for your self.

    Midmount ZTR's rule.
  3. gravedigger5

    gravedigger5 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 505

    (1) Walker, Toro (2) My dad uses a Walker and really likes it and seems like alot of members on here would probably agree.
    Do a search on here, sure you will find alot on this subject.
    BTW, I agree with LGF
  4. The Mowerdude

    The Mowerdude LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 372


    correct me if I'm wrong. I take it that you're not in the business of cutting grass for other people.

    If you're only doing this for your own property, the 3 wheel design really brings a lot to the party.

    I ran a Scag from 1993 to 1997. That's when I bought my first ZTR. Now I gotta tell you, those ZTRs will really rock!!

    But hey, if you're only mowing your own place, I don't see where you're under any pressure to finish and move on to another job. I gave my 3 wheel Scag to my parents. They have a couple of acres they have to mow and they are in their 70s. They don't get in any hurry and they don't do any other folk's yards. The Scag 3 wheel rider was easy for my mom to drive. It only took her about 30 seconds and she was a natural. Of course, you need to know my mom. She learned to drive during WWII and there were no cars in the family. Only a Studebaker dump truck. So I guess this 2 wheeler has been no challenge whatsoever. And that's really one of the nicest things about the 3 wheel design. It's a no brainer. The ZTRs have a bit of a learning curve.

    Really, LGF is right......for a pro. If you're just thinking about your own place, I wouldn't pass up another 3 wheeler if I came across one. And I think they're still making them.

    Since I went to ZTRs, I have to admit, I miss the ability to cut up under low hanging branches and hedges without getting a face full of scratchy leaves and such. You can do that with the 3 wheeler.
  5. TJLC

    TJLC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,308

    Have you thought of an Exmark hydro w/b with an Exmark sitdown steerable sulky ?, (don't laugh). I have one and it is a very nice setup. Just a thought. Good luck.
  6. dbear

    dbear LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 606

    Wow, thanks for the replies to date. I realize that ztrs rule, but I don't do any commercial mowing, nor do I have plans to. I did play with the Scag Turf Tiger for approx 2 hours, maybe that wasn't enough, and maybe I should try a different brand(?).

    I suppose I could get out and do a heck of a lot of trimming so I didn't get nailed by all the branches, but that still wouldn't resolve the rough ride, nor the two-handed operation (learning curve). Anybody running a Ferris ztr with suspension and if so, is the ride noticeably improved?

    TJ, I did look into a wb with steerable sulky, but in my area, this setup turned out to be more money than the 3-wheeler.

    Mowerdude, I had forgotten about Walker and Toro. I looked at them too, but I wondered about the ride with your feet basically on top of the deck. Any info there?
  7. The Mowerdude

    The Mowerdude LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 372

    IMO, Walker is one of the best on the market, and for your application, it would be fabulous although probably overkill. But then that's your decision. The GHS would certainly handle any and all leaf cleanup in the fall and if you have lots of mulch beds, you'll be able to prevent the clippings from spreading grass into the beds. You may or may not know this, but grass can grow from cuttings and if you blow the clippings up into the mulch, that's what you're doing. Planting grass cuttings.

    So, yeah, if you're willing to spend the money, the Walker would serve you extremely well for many many years to come. And if they give you a subscription to their newsletter, you may decide to get into the business.

    I'm not familiar with the Toro.
  8. AztlanLC

    AztlanLC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,051

    We use ferris Is300z and we also have one ferris 3 wheler, at the begining my employees didn't like the new ferris Is3000z they say it was to hard to mow with (we alway used 3 whelers before)
    after dome get use to every body loves the z's they're faster smooth ride (better than a 3 wheeler) pretty solid frame (same the 3 wheler) I'd would highly recommend any ferris mower you get (rider).

    with a Z you can't reach under trees as good as with a 3wh.
    Hey but if it were my property I would cut all those hanging branches if posible.

    The ride as definiltly smoother with my z than my 3wh. I finish about 30% faster.

    There's a new is1000z from ferris which haven't try but it seems that could have a better clearance under trees
  9. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,501

    Ferris makes a great 3-wheeler...61" cut with a 22 hp Kohler engine. We used to have 3 of them, but traded them up for the 72" deck couple of years ago.

    You might want to check them out.
  10. John Gamba

    John Gamba LawnSite Fanatic
    from ct
    Messages: 10,812

    Gravely PM310 25hp 9.5mph all hydro lifts.


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