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Tire rotation question

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by DoetschOutdoor, Dec 31, 2007.

  1. DoetschOutdoor

    DoetschOutdoor LawnSite Bronze Member
    from S. IL
    Messages: 1,818

    I'm on my second set of MT's and seeing as how they are not cheap at all, I would like to see this set last some time. My question is, how should I rotate them? I've got 5k on them now and they have been rotated three times keeping the tires on the same side just moving the front to back and so. Is this an acceptable pattern? With only 5k on them, I cant tell if they've worn at all and most of the tits are still on them. Anybody got any other ways of doing it or ways to make them last? Thanks in advance
  2. grass_cuttin_fool

    grass_cuttin_fool LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,526

    I use the front to back and cross method ( X ) also...this works good unless you have directional tires

  3. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 6,464

    youve rotated 3 times in only 5k miles? why? you dont need to do it but every 6 thousand miles. i got 40k out of my muds and never rotated them...ha!
  4. DoetschOutdoor

    DoetschOutdoor LawnSite Bronze Member
    from S. IL
    Messages: 1,818

    That may seem like alot of labor/time but it really isnt that bad. 2 days ago, I washed/waxed my truck and rotated the tires in a little over an hour in my free time. My first set of MT's didnt last very long at all due to not rotating enough and keeping the truck aligned properly so Im looking for ways to make these last. I was told by several people and shops to keep the tires rotated about every 2k miles. It seems like alot but I can rotate the tires in 15 minutes and if thats what it takes then...
  5. T.E.

    T.E. LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 799

    Rotating the tires will help get the most milage out of them. I try to rotate them every 5k miles. I've been told front to back, and back to front. I was also told the back can be crossed to the other side on the front.

    Later, Tony
  6. backhoe1

    backhoe1 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 41

    The standard way to rotate tires is to go front to back, back to front and cross on the drive axle. (4x4 would consider the rear) ie: on a pu you'd go rf to lr, lr to lf, lf to rr, rr to rf.
  7. Grass Happens

    Grass Happens LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 682

    When I took my alignment and suspension class, that's how we were taught.
  8. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    How about getting a 4 wheel wheel alignment your wheel alignment might be off. Mud tires don't last very long and depending on the brand and tread design they peal off like toilet paper. My brother has 235/85R-16 ya stockish tires on his Dodge Cummins its a work truck he only gets 20,000kms (13,000 miles) out of mud tires. The same size commercial light truck tires on my F-350 and F-Superduty (F-450 16inch wheels) I only got 18,000kms (11,185 miles) out of steer tires and 36,000kms (22,370 miles) out of the duals.

    If you have a diesel P/U or a 3/4 ton to 1 ton it doesn't matter what you do its going to peal off steer axle tires. With the diesel P/U trucks pulling heavier trailers or carrying a decent load put tires through extreme stress. There is so much power in the new trucks the rim pull on the tires is enough to distort them when the power is applied.
  9. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 6,464

    235's??! those are tiny!!! like i said i got 40k out of my mud tires.
  10. SiteSolutions

    SiteSolutions LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,114

    If it's that big a deal to you, which it seems to be, I would say rotate once every 5000, or maybe every oil change, and have the alignment checked when you do. Have the balance of the tires checked, too, especially if you feel any vibrations. Seems to me that alignment & balance issues will have a bigger impact than rotating them every two weeks.

    That and the number one thing you can do to make them last: don't burn them up! Don't spin them and don't corner hard. Cause if you baby them, they will last even if you are a little slack in your maintenance. And if you don't take it easy on them, they won't last even if you rotate them twice a day.

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