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Experiment: Pondering the idea of a thread with pictures of splices WITHOUT Wire nut

thats right, just stripped and twisted wires.

I want to make a study of connecting the wires in such a way that they never come apart.

sometimes when connecting small valve wires wires to a single large wire ( ie. 14ga. would be large for me):
I find it frustrating to try to twist the wire nut and wires in such a way that its always a "tight bite".

I always leave connections in a seemingly tight bite state, but it sometimes takes a second -" re-strip and re-twist"

Any wiring Ninja's out there?

*For the purposes of this thread, please omit Plier crimp type connections.

Thanks!!
 

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Guy in my neck of woods uses the “I don’t do things to last, I’m in the repair business method”.
He’s no longer in biz but I make $$$ of his work, oh well cha Ching
 

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I always cut the solenoid wire a bit longer, twist it up tight and insert it slightly ahead of the solid wire , The stranded wire is an issue. When I get it tight I’ll pull on both wires. So far so good. The only wire I pull the lineman’s out on is line voltage, oh and 2-wire repairs. Yea, sometimes it will pull out and have to be redone.
 

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Not sure where these wire are sitting after you connect them, in the ground, a jinction box etc?
This can apply to non-soldered wires i suppose,
But when ever im soldering wires together and they need to be in a flat orientation, which is typically what you want i use the western union splice. Learned it from my high school electronics teacher many, many years ago.
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ive been having this problem alot this year and i feel like the wire nuts im getting from siteone are bunk.
The black/white bottom spray nuts sold under various names suck.

I started using these

they hold tight, in fact if you need to undo them you likely will need to cut the wires.

My method is to cut stranded-valve wire longer than solid and wrap it flat around the solid then twist on the we nut.

solid to solid I cut long and twist from the end with pliers , then twist on wp nut
 

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For solenoid connections, I think that smaller wire nuts are better. More in keeping with the 18 gauge wire of the solenoids.

I know of some really old systems that used twisted-wire connections over an inch long, very thoroughly wrapped in electrical tape. Good electrical tape.
 
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