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Toro Z400 Pro Value & Estate series

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by DJL50, May 20, 2006.

  1. DJL50

    DJL50 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 269

    Anyone own the Toro Pro Z400 48" Cut? Any issues with it? How about the Z400 Estate Series? The Estate is most likely is all I need The Pro Value would be a step above. I have 2.25 A. all flat with some bumpy spots. This would be for home use.
  2. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb LawnSite Member
    Messages: 45

    I can't answer your question directly but I have been looking for similar items. I looked a both side by side and I think I would prefer the Pro Value in the 19/52 configuration. The Pro Value has the Turbo Force deck and the Estate series does not. I thought there looked like a huge difference in deck quality. That was the reason I was considering the Pro Value. I think the model number is 74415 for the Pro Value in a 52" and 74413 in 48".

    If you get one, post a review!

  3. DJL50

    DJL50 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 269


    Have not seen the Estate in person. The dealer and Toro spec sheet says the deck on each is made of 7Ga steel but the estate is not a turbo force. Not too sure what the difference is other than the baffle being adjustable. I am looking at the 48" because of price. $500 more for the 52" (Pro) I can get the Estate 48" for $4,999 The pro 48" for $6,100. Big difference. I just question the Pro because my Dealer and Toro says it is more mower than I need (and my dealer would have to order the Estate on top of that )
  4. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb LawnSite Member
    Messages: 45

    The Turbo Force deck looked a heck of a lot beefier than the deck on the Estate series.

    Toro seems to be a good value. I am driving myself crazy trying to find just the right mower for my 3 acres.

  5. mhussey

    mhussey LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 523

    Hey, I have what is called the Z-449. It has a 19HP Kawasaki and I love it. I don't see anything different from other machines except for others may have more HP. However, I have never been in any turf that will bog the Kawi down yet. 19HP is really all you need for a 48" deck unless you want to run a bagger. It is built the same as a Exmark Lazer HP. This is a strong, quality built machine. I think you would really enjoy it. Hope this helps.
  6. lawnprosteveo

    lawnprosteveo LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Tulsa
    Messages: 1,930

    I have the same mower only with the 52" deck. I put a mulch kit on it last fall and have left it on...It works great! Was a little concerned with the 19hp engine being enough..and it has been. Even when we had alot of rain.
  7. mhussey

    mhussey LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 523

    Here are some stripes done with the mower. Note that this is a stock Turbo Force deck with no striping kit.

  8. Freddy_Kruger

    Freddy_Kruger LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,064

    I was on the toro web site today I see they have a toro creditcard but why cant I order directly from them? They show all the merchandise but then you have to go to local dealers...
  9. DJL50

    DJL50 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 269


    Yes! The mower is a 449. Do you have the 48" or the 52" deck? I have a 17hp Kaw. WheelHorse lawn tractor now. Must be 15 years old. I have never had a problem with the engine. EVER!!! I was reading on Kaw. web page if you buy 6 qt. of Kaw. brand oil they will cover your engine under warranty for 4 years. Bet the dealer don't know a thing about it. (they have to fill out a card for you) I am 99.9% sure I will go with this model.
    Can I ask how long you have owned yours and what you had to pay for it? Like to know what is a good deal or not.

    Thanks so much for your time
  10. jdlynch

    jdlynch LawnSite Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 32


    Please note my listing in the classified section for a like new (less than 1 hour) Exmark Lazer HP 19 KAW with 46" Triton deck. I live near Louisville, KY not too far from Cincinnati.

    I will consider any reasonable offers, and, yes, the warranty is transferrable.


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