The Series 3 420 CT is much more competative than the initial series. I don't know if they have Series 3 420 to demo but it would be more competative with the TL130 than the first series. The 440 CT Series 3 is a bigger machine than the 420 but much more powerful. The 440 CT is only three foot pounds less in torque than the TL150 but substantially more compact and manueverable. The CASE dealer here sells CASE and TK as well. As the CASE tracked machines have been out now for a while, the dealer has been more comfident in selling them. They sell more of the 440 sized tracked machines in the CASE brand. As far as the larger machines go they more of the 150 sized TK than the CASE machines. I would look at the CASE 440 CT original series or the Series 3 and compare it against anything on the market and for pure excavating ability it cant be beat. The 420 sized machines are not that popular here so I only know what I am told. I know of only one 420 CT in this area. The 440 machines a very popular.well the cat is the first one i have demo'd. Demo'd a taki tl150 year and a half ago before we bought a wheel loader. Im a huge fan of taki s , i have a tb135 and love it) but the cat impressed me alot. nice power, smooth riding and was climbing and grading some sand berms that i couldnt believe i was doing. the downsides I have seen so far are the door swinging open instead of rolling up and lack of loader breakout force and curl force. I can let this one slide since it wont be use to much for heavy digging. The tl 130 is next on the demo list for sure. Just talked to case and taki dealer (same salesman they deal in both) this morning and said not to bother with the case. The taki would run it under the table and was considerably less money two.
I have to agree with ron on fuel consumption. The cat salesman here has been doing a lot of research that issue. He says 246 II uses around 2.7 gal/hour., not to get off subject but he says the 277c & 287c uses only about 2.4 g/hr. Hard to believe but I know a guy that traded in a 2 tl 150s one with 300hrs and one with 1500 hr because he was burning as much fuel in 2 277c's than 1 tl 150. That adds up to a large number over the course of a year!!
One last thing, 39,5 for the cat, cab heat air, 72" bucket and 4 year major component warranty. Doesnt sound bad
My 440 is wheeled. However, I was part of a CASE customer evaluation of the CT models in AZ. Present also as a basis of comparison were the CAT 277B, TK 140, BC S250 and a Komatsu (cant recall the model.ksss is your 440 a ct? how do you like it if it is?
A dealer that doesn't do demos? I'll beat they don't sell many machines with that type of policy.We've now been looking at adding a CTL as well with the 247B2 and the TL 130 on the short list. THe Cat performed awesome but is $5k more than the Tak. The Tak is $30k for an open cab but the dealer wont allow us to demo the machine ... they said they don't do demos? A little leary on making decisions without testing it but the reviews on here have been very positive and at 5000 less, seems like a better deal.