Trailer Weight???

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by kcameron, Feb 26, 2002.

  1. kcameron

    kcameron LawnSite Member
    Messages: 33

    I was at the local RV/Trailer show the other day looking and wishing and it got me to thinking. We were talking to several dealers about the weights that out trucks pull and granted, the trailers I was looking at were at the 6-7K dry weight. And they come w/ load leveling and anti-sway protection. At what weight are these safety measures concidered prudent? I have a 2000 Z71, not that I have loaded it down or anything, but I just would like the info. Plus, I remember seeing a truck like mine pulling just a light 12-14 trailer and it sent him in a 360 in the middle of the road. Kinda scarry.....Thanks for the info,
  2. beck

    beck LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 455

    since you have a Z71 that is only a 1/2 ton correct?
    Some other factors is bed size, engine and axle ratio.

    reg cab
    5.3L 3.73 short/long bed 8300/8200
    5.3L 4.10 9300/9200

    extended cab
    5.3L 3.73 S/L 8000/7800
    5.3L 4.10 S/L 9000/8800

    These numbers are out of the silverado brochure. I have a 99 Z71 ext. cab and have a 7X16 enclosed trailer. It weighs 2300 lbs empty and probably close to 5000 with equipment. I think the trailer is a little on the heavy side for it, but with the load leveler it should help. This year I will try to get a better idea of the tongue weight and see if I can move some equipment around to have it balanced better.

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  3. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,699

    The safety measures become prudent the second you exceed the vehicle information sticker that is affixed to the door jam. The number that you are the most interested in (and the police if they pull you over) is the GCVW or Gross Combined Vehicle Weight. This is the amount that your truck and trailer are allowed to weigh. If you have a GCVW of 8800 pounds and your truck weighs 4500 pounds then your trailer can weigh a maximum of 4300 pounds loaded. Also, if you are involved in a really bad vehicle accident the accident investigators will be checking these figures also.
  4. This is really tricky

    I have a 3/4 ton that has a GVW rating of 8800 and a gcvw rating of 15000 and it's licesned at 18k gvw.

    But when you start dealing with 1/2 tons you must make damn sure you do not go over the sticker in the door.

    my 1/2 ton says 6800 in side the door. and I'll be damned if it will stop much more than that. But I have towed close to 12000 gcvw.

    Willl it do it yes most of the time.

    Will it last doing it NO!!!

    Can you stop in an emergancy NO!!!

    Those specs inside the door are for carrying and stopping, mostly for STOPPING. Yes a 1/2 ton can pull a whole lot of weight but it cannot stop it.

    DO NOT GO OVER THE GVW!! You hit me you will be broke for the rest of your life...................
  5. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,555

    LGF,your truck is tagged for 18K? is that right?.My Dodge is 8800 GVWR,GCWR is 18000.I have it registered for 8800,my trailer is registered for 9900,which is its max GVWR,do I need to have my truck registered for the total weight too? I have run up to 17000 so far,and its an easy tow,and stopping is as easy as empty with the good trailer brakes.
  6. I guess we do it different here. GCVW (on the plates) is 18,000. Trailer just get tags so uncle sam can get more money.

    John call the state highway patrol or DOT. They can answer better than I can about they way they have it set up.

    Here they just use GCVW.

    a 12,000# duelly can be reg for 24k
  7. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,555

    thanks LGF,we do not have a weight # on the plate,just a max weight its registered for on the registration card we keep in the glove box.wwwwhen registering my trucks,there is no mention or box to fill in for towing (GCWR)info,only the unladen weight,and max GVWR,and # od cylinders.
  8. Forester

    Forester LawnSite Member
    from ms
    Messages: 2

    Are all vehicle weight and trailer weight considerations based strictly on bumper pulls? Does a goosneck change any limits? Thanks.
  9. Entire load including trailer weight.

    John we have a choice here. 1/2 ton either 6k-BL or 12k-BL

    3/4 ton 6k-BL, 12k-BL, or 18k-BL

    1 ton dually (single rear wheel same as 3/4 ton) 12k-BL, 18k-BL, or 24k-BL

    1.5 ton dually 18k-BL, 24k-BL, or 26kBL as long as that's maximum load of 26k GCVW.

    All over 26k require CDL and can reg at the lowest weight ratiing for the rear axle.

    My 2.5 ton is reg for 42k-BL FARM.

    Inside the door or somewhere on the vehical there is a sticker and it states the GVW that the truck can haul, hold, stop, whatever when it stands alone. (no trailer).

    My Dodge 3/4ton says 8800, but it weighs 5400# only full of gas. So that would leave me with 3400# left, but it can carry 5000# no problem. It says it can tow a total of 15,000 including th truck.

    I hope I helped with info.
  10. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,555

    LGF,its amazing how much payload the options eat up!your truck has 3400 lbs payload,my 2000 Dodge weighs 6800 with no driver,full of fuel,and with plow frame,.leaving only 2K payload,the Cummins,quad cab,and all options really add a lot of weight.Yes im overloaded a lot wheni have the spreader in the back,and plow on.Wow,theres a 1400 lb difference in weight,I knew the Cummmins aded 500-I knew the quad cab added 500,I guess the rest of options adds another 400 lbs.My GCWR is 18000 per Dodge's ratings.The window sticker says i have a 11,450 lb tow capacity,which if you do the math is truely only 11K,since the truck with driver weighd 7000.Thanks for the info

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