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trouble lawn - seeding ?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by jbturf, May 10, 2008.

  1. jbturf

    jbturf LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,502

    lawn installed about 2 years ago by a local landsaper,
    IMO - at has never really filled in or looked healthy

    this spring it was looking bad- snow mold , freeze damage etc..
    as many lawn in my area have,

    so i went out and did there 1st treatment as requested
    fert + dimension .15% and took a soil sample

    the very next day(of course) i was contacted by the scaper and
    customer -wanted to get the place reseeded.
    told them about the dimension app, and to at least wait until i get the soil test back

    2 things i know of the situation are that when pulling the soil plugs,
    i could not get the probe more than 2" deep any where and
    that the property had/has been overwatered since day 1

    im trying to think of the best route for some seeding, so please only
    reply if you have tried this with these conditions and your resluts

    thinking double aeration and overseed with perenial rye- for now
    touch it up in the fall

  2. Subterfuge

    Subterfuge LawnSite Member
    Messages: 8

    There is your answer. Sounds like there is only subgrade with no real topsoil. I can't say without seeing a soil core but it is pretty typical for these hacks to cheap out on anything you can grow grass on. If this is the case, it isn't your responsibility. The soil test was the right idea. Walk away if no one wants to cough up the ching to fix the mess. We can't walk on water.
  3. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,519

    so is it clay or gravel underneath, i would say aerate double or triple and double the rye grass, use a good tri rye mix. They arent putting the seed problem on you because you put dimension down are they? Id point the inger at the contractor using 2 inches of loam will never give you a great lawn period. Its like building a house on a cardboard foundation wont ever be beautiful with such a weak foundation
  4. jbturf

    jbturf LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,502

    thanks for the replys

    i think you guys are right on, kinda
    the same conclusion i was coming to as well,

    i did suggest to the landscaper that there could
    be a soil problem- though he quickly dismissed
    that idea

    im thinking now, i should of got a shovel out to get some
    of that mystery soil in the 2-6" range- for the soil test
    the bottom of the soil plugs i did get were a very coarse
    sand and seemed like i hit a rock on each try--

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