True Professionals Don't Mind Lowballers and Novices

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by Sean Adams, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Darryl G

    Darryl G Inactive
    Messages: 9,500

    There's one guy in my area that comes here from "his country" every year to do lawn care. He does pretty decent work but does lowball bigtime. I screen my customers pretty carefully and actually refer all the bottom of the barrel customers to him...I figure if I tie him up doing the crappy lawns for the PITA customers he won't have time to go after my target customers. I've talked to him about his pricing before and the way he looks at it he's still making a lot compared to what he can in his country...he says "in my country I am a rich man."
  2. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,463

    well i understand this is a different situation. the guy you are talking about is from another country but i find it awefully nervy of you to talk to someone else about there pricing.

    if someone were to talk to me about my prices i'd laugh and tell them to get lost.
  3. Darryl G

    Darryl G Inactive
    Messages: 9,500

    How do you know he didn't initiate the pricing discussion...jump to conclusions much?
  4. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,463

    well you do make a good point but your post makes it seem like you went up to him and tried to discuss his lowballing with him.

    I don't generally if ever discuss prices with anyone. the most I say is my prices are what they are. if clients don't like them they can go else where. if my competition doesn't like them, tough.
  5. Will P.C.

    Will P.C. LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 966

    Darryl says he gives this foreigner work so it isn't like he bum rushed him yelling lowballer
  6. ToddH

    ToddH LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,192

    Where I live it is a fact of life. You pretty much know prices cause they paste them all over your door all year long. My workers go home for the winter be it a two week vacation, one month and one guy is not returning until March.

    They work hard. I have never had a client say one word to me but I do let them know that these are employees on a payroll.

    Are there former H2B workers out in the wild? Absolutely they are out there. I am sure there are also what we fondly call ******** too. The former is less of a threat than the wild H2B landscape worker cause they are often well trained. I think however this is getting to be less and less of a problem
  7. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    As long as we're talking about lowballers from another country,,, I wonder what they're thinking when they support Socialism in this country... Does it ever occur to them that the reason we used to be a rich country was because we used to be different from the poor countries of the planet???
    As we raise prices we will be loosing work... Its already happening with various cutbacks by some customers and once again,,, only the Joneses will be "Keeping up with the Joneses"... :)
  8. GreenGuysLC

    GreenGuysLC LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 366

    100% agree. I dont wiggle either. Could have lost a 20k contract last week when they told me i wasnt low bid...i wouldnt come down...but because they know my quality...they renewed anyway. I dont believe in senior discounts..or church discounts....or bald head discounts or baggy pants discounts. It cost me the same to maintain matter who you are.
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  9. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,763

    The lowballers that get to me are on the commercial side, properties that SHOULD be at $65 - $70 they cut for $25 because of the exposure of having commercial work :hammerhead:
    As for other companies, I try to be civil with them but some of them I can't deal with for various reasons, if we're at a walkthrough there are a few of them that will come over and talk. I have nothing against the competition, even the lowballers, if they want to make $25 PH cutting grass good for them Thumbs Up

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