. I think we all need to realize True Green is both the BEST & WORST thing to happen to the Green Industry. BEST because they not only started and build the Home Lawn Care Business what it is today. They also lobby the EPA heavy on our behalf against Granola Nut Tree Huggers. WORST because they took a Great Idea with great marketing and Equipment and used untrained low paid people who don't care to do the work. Ted is saying TG/CL is doing a good job in his area. That I believe because sharp people are smart enough to use TG/CL as a Training Ground for going into business themselves. But most of TG/CL employee are fresh off the street and pushed to produce to the point they don't care. Yes a 3 CEO doesn't surprise me. But the problem is not with upper management so much as They don't have and can't keep good employees in the trenches. IMHO they need to raise prices which will lose customer and then untrained employees. Then concentrate on building a Trained staff that is paid enough so they stay. BTW I am using a former TG/CL Cab Over spray truck. My biggest problems with that truck are plumbing repairs that were made with carbon steel instead of stainless steel. I believe I have found all those cheap repairs and corrected those problems. .