That's the only way I can see this scenario unfolding.[/QUOTE] Yeah I have been maintaining them for over 10 years and have a really good relationship with the managers, but they were informed this year that now all bids are gonna be handled by corperate. So you know what that means. Who cares about quality or loyalty its all about cutting back. I understand why they do it, now I just need to make adjustments on my end to make things work ya know.