yup, it's the bigger companies that are driving down prices. i finally figured it out. where our mentality is to make x amount, 50 times, thier mentality, is to make x amount, 500 times. ex: i like my average lawns to be around $30 a cut. i lose alot of potentials, to guys that charge $25 for the same yard. my mentality is less work, more pay, thiers is more work, less pay, resulting in more $$$ overall. they are not dumb, by any means. they figured out that they make more by charging $25, 200 times, than by charging $30-50 times. follow me?