Trying for that Second Crew

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Master of the Lawn, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. Master of the Lawn

    Master of the Lawn Guest
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    Anyone out there have any suggestions on how to start a second crew? Should i start it out as a one man show, then grow it. My goal is two run two crews of two men each. that would be enough to handle initself. What do you pay the foreman/driver? Thank You for help. A.O.Smith ;) ;)
  2. Expert Lawns

    Expert Lawns LawnSite Silver Member
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    Just wondering, how many weekly accounts do you have?
  3. mow2nd

    mow2nd LawnSite Senior Member
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    All I have to say is good luck.............I started a second crew last year.
  4. jajwrigh

    jajwrigh LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Martinsville, IN
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    We need to know how many accounts you have!
  5. Flipperneck

    Flipperneck LawnSite Member
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    If you have guys trained on the lawns go for it. If your guys are gonna destroy everthing and need a babba everyday don't. As for peoples good and bad experiences thats theirs do to bad luck, lack of social skills, or they can't afford decent people. One good tip a boss used on me for the lawn route 5 years ago was I got a salary based on man hours of the lawns averaged out my pay was 13 an hour and the other guy with only a little experience 9 an hour. Needless to say the first week took 45 hour per man the second took 40, etc... I had that route banged out on a average of 36 hours most of the season and it looked great... I let the other guy mow most of the time and weedwhacked everything myself because I was afraid if he screwed up I would be sitting next to my boss again and losing pay.
  6. Master of the Lawn

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    During peak season i run about 12-14 yards a day. I don't even think about stoping for less than $ 30. Right now i'am working along with another man. I know could'nt work a second crew year round. I've been thinking about getting into the yellow pages to help generate calls. Here in SA we have a north side yellow pages to help target customers.
  7. Flipperneck

    Flipperneck LawnSite Member
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    How many hours are you and the other guys working a week? Is the other guy motivated by more money and a good work ethic?
  8. Master of the Lawn

    Master of the Lawn Guest
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    Right now about 30hrs week grass hasnt started yet. The other guy is money motivated with a good work ethic .
  9. specialtylc

    specialtylc LawnSite Bronze Member
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    If it was me I would get my 2 man crew maxed out like 50 plus hrs a week and then add a 1 man crew to take the 2 man back to 35 hrs. Put new guy with you and put experienced one by himself. And after you get the 1 man crew going start selling more lawn work to get everybody back to full week.
  10. bastalker

    bastalker LawnSite Senior Member
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    Be careful......Getting a second crew means quality is going to go down. If you are a mow, blow, an go lco, then there is no problem. If you want to maintain quality, you might want to re-evaluate the situation. The second crew will not maintaim the quality you expect, or the same quality that you yourself provide.

    I have been there an done it. Finally had to drop the second crew thing. I couldn't find anyone that was on the same level as me...If I could find that special someone, they would have it made.

    You have to have that special individual that is a team player, and is looking to get to that same goal you are. If you have found that someone, great! If you haven't, you will know soon enough.

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