I started this conversation on another thread and have decided that since I got rather off the topic of that thread Id start another one. Lately I have been trying hard to get more new business for my Bobcat. I dont know if Im doing something wrong or simply not doing enough, but I will tell you that the last money I made was $160 a couple of weeks ago clearing my neighbors driveways after the biggest snowstorm we've seen in a couple of years. That was promptly spent on getting the tires sealed and a couple of gallons of hydro. Such is my life. I am trying to maintain a low overhead life as well as business. I am 20 years old, I live at home and keep my equipment in my parents garage in a very nice residential neighborhood. Luckily all of the neighbors are friendly and none of them give a rats ass. My parents let me live at home rent free as long as I chauffeur my grandfather around, who lives with us. When its necessary such as to the doctor, the bowling alley, etc. And keep the truck gassed up. 'My' truck is actually my moms truck, originally bought to tow a horse trailer that never materialized. Never the less, it as all of my equipment is bought and fully paid for. I paid for my loader mostly by myself with money Id saved from misc. construction jobs Ive had since the age of 14 (70%) with a small amount of help from some leftover money from the real estate transactons when we moved a couple of years ago (30%). I realize that I am very lucky to have parents as supportive as I do. They understand that all I have wanted to do is operate earth moving equipment about since I could walk (not kidding, ask my mom). My father repairs and restores antique furniture and paintings and has been self-employed ever since he started doing that for a living, long before I was born. I decided a long time ago that I didnt want to work for anyone else either and decided that wanted to figure out how to be a self-employed one-man small-time excavating operation. Maybe that... that is this... is crazy. Does that type of operation even exist? I have no proof that it can be done. Nor am I sure that I even have the first clue as to what it takes, if it can be done at all. I just thought that buying a piece of equipment that was within my means, that is fitted with my existing truck, and could be paid for, cash, might be a good place to start. And then work my way up from there. So far in the year and a half of owning the loader I have grossed about $2500 worth of work actually with the loader. So far all my work has been for friends that I have worked for before I owned the loader. I have two jobs lined up when the weather warms up a bit that'll probably net me around $800 profit total together. After that I have nothing for sure and for all I know I could have nothing else this year it all depends on if anyone I have given a card to decides to hire me. I have given card to a couple of guys, friends of friends, who are landscapers, primarily grass guys who say they rent a bobcat once in a while, said they might hire me as a sub rather than rent but no guarentees there either. Im not even sure what I expect any of this rambling to accomplish except maybe reasurance that Im not out of my mind in relation to my career choices. It just feels like Im just not doing something right, or something. Before I bought the loader it seemed like everone I talked to (mostly my dads friends) was telling me that 'Oh yeah almost everyone has a use for a guy with a bocat. Once you have one and word gets around that you know how to use it they'll beat down your front door and throw cash at you' I knew it would not be as utopian as that but from all the success stories I heard from people it seemed originally like it would be easier to get work than it is turnng out to be. I just feel like if people wont take me seriously operating at the size Im at now, whats going to make them take me seriously if I was bigger? When I think about how Im doing now and then I think bigger trucks, bigger loaders, big excavators, CDL, and even more so bank loans, accountants, lawyers, LLC's, employees, payroll taxes, workers comp, etc. shivers run up my spine and I can hear my dads voice "The phrase 'lose your ass' comes to mind." I just dont want to try to get any bigger until people take me seriously and I can make back the purchase cost of my current equipment and start making profit at this size. I am just doing this in baby steps, taking my time, and trying to stay as low profile as possible until I start seeing some fruits for my efforts. Am I making sense to anyone?