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Turfco xt5 vs Lawn Solutions 21"aerator

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by fatboynormmie, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
    Messages: 4,350

    Here is the specs. Aerating width 24"s, core depth up to 2 3/4 depth stops 2 1/4, 3/4" tines, .82 acres per hour, up to 4mph forward, up to 2mph reverse, length 74", width 33", Height 50", weight 362lbs with weights, 301lbs w/o, two removable weights 30lbs ea.

    No tine spacing, 6 in the row I saw.

    For comparing on the roller tine style machine weight per tine is what matters as they use the same tines. Roller speed may help very little but unit weight over the tines is what makes the difference. If weight per tine is the same I do not know how it could get a different depth.

    Your plugr is based on weight and the speed the tine is forced downward.
  2. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    Ok....I called Turfco and the tine spacing on the XT5 is 4.0" x 5.5". Can anybody out there verify the spacing on their other aerators? To quote Ronald Reagan, "trust but verify". I was a bit surprised it was 5.5" fore and aft.

    LS 21" spacing is 3.5" x 6"
  3. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,280

    So basically you are getting the same hole punch with the LS and Turfco units, no?
  4. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    The Lawn Solutions unit has the more dense plug count. I'm waiting on 100%confirmation on the Turfco pattern before I start cranking out numbers as public record. :rolleyes:

    One of the big application Co. in the area uses Turfco units.
  5. turfcobob

    turfcobob LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    Hi Guys, I gotta put my 2 cents worth in here. We did considerable testing of tines and patterns when I was with Ryan (18 years) and now
    Turfco (19 years). Here are some facts you can live with. First forget the .5 inch here and .5 inch there, you are going to get 6 holes in every sq foot with rolling aerators. If you get nine in one square the one next to it will have 3. 6 is the number live with it. Quality aeration with rolling aerators is considered to be at least 9 holes per sq ft up to whatever you can do. 12, 14 even 16 or 18 holes per sq ft are great. But, at least get to 9 that is the baseline number you want.
    Rolling aerators do not require quite the number of holes per sq ft as piston or vertical impact aerators. The pistion type aertion does not move the tine under the ground and therefore there is less soil movement and root tearing or loosing of the soil. They tend to plunge straight in and out leaving a hole and a core. Rolling tines have a tearing or X pattern under the soil they enter at one angle and exit at another making a movement under the soil of about 90 degrees. When they make this movement they fracture the soil and tear the roots of the plant thus stimulating new growth at the root tips and loosening of the soil for air and water movement. Thus less holes are needed.
    Enough for today go forth and punch holes.
  6. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    Ok...confession time. I goofed for some reason I was under the impression that the LS 21" WB tines were spaced at 3.5" x 6". It is actually 3.5" x 9".

    Glad I caught that before my flyers went to print. :hammerhead:

    I was somehow under the impression that the LS WB and Stander where the same on fore and aft spacing? Now I'm not sure about the Lawns Solutions Stander pattern. :confused:

  7. LawnSolutionsCP

    LawnSolutionsCP Sponsor
    Messages: 907

    They are 3.5" x 6" that is old and not correct.

  8. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378


    My tines measure 9" tip to tip fore and aft. :confused:

    Is there some other measuring system for rolling tine units since the tines enter the ground and go below ground level???
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  9. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    Ok ... a picture is worth a thousand words.





  10. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    Been super wet here so I drove down to the a few local rental places and measured the same BlueBird I rent a few weeks ago and went to another place and measured 2 different Classen units and they are within 0.5" of web site specs.

    I needed to make sure there was not some special way of measuring rolling tines. :rolleyes:

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