Use of 'alternative' lamps in 120v Fixtures

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    For years now I have been including a full re-lamp service for all 120V outdoor fixtures as part of my installations. The response has been very positive.

    Here are a few photos of some antique fixtures we changed lamps in recently.



  2. pihta

    pihta LawnSite Member
    Messages: 115

    Just to make it clear - you change lamps to 12V ? Or just replace old lamps with matte ones? Or what?
  3. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    I have been doing this for some time too. You would be suprised at some of the wattages people place in lamps. We use alot of 15w candelabras and par 20 lamps as well as the 120v version of the mr16

    Dimmers and relamps really make a huge impact on the overall view of your project.
  4. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,645

    I will always reccomend and in most cases go ahead and redo the bulbs for lower wattage on the carriage and post lights on the outside of a home. The soffit lights, or down lights that exist on a home is a tougher call. many times homeowners want them to still be at that ultra-bright wattage for welcoming elderly guests or for that spooky sound that wakes you up to check on at night .
  5. emby

    emby LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 380

    I always replace thier switch with a dimmer and tone the lights down to the same level as the landscape lights. Works pretty good sometimes. The only time I have had any trouble is when the home owners have gone around and installed the flourescent bulbs into the fixtures and the dimmer does not like that at all. Sounds like a bees nest at the switch.

  6. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    Two of the photos show the use of 4W silicone dipped candelabra base lamps and the other is with a 35W PAR20 Halogen lamp.

    I prefer to re-lamp over using dimmers... It is a cheaper and easier process that does not require the use of an EC.
  7. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,183

    I think most of us probably do this if we are trying to give our customers the best.* We will often replace carriage lights with dark sky sconces or up/down ones to eliminate the "glare".* Most of our customers, once educated, totally agree and will allow us to get rid of or tone down the glare bombs.* I don't like dimmers because they change the color temp of the lamps as you dim them.* Looking at James' photos of the antique style lamps, one thing we will do often is wire in some simflame modules into the candalabra bulbs and create a very realistic flickering candle efffect. Our customers have really loved this and the flickering is incredibly realistic using standard lamps. Works best when the glass on the fixtures is frosted.

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