I cut all the pieces for my manifolds yesterday and dry fiitted everything together. My valve boxes seem to be pretty shallow. The solenoids on the valves (hunter pgv jar tops 1" male thd) are only about 1/2" below the valve box lid when lid is in place. I made the manifold a little wide so the box sits on 1 1/4" tees on one side and 1" coupling sleeves on the other side (and not on the cl200). Box is not tall enough to cut clearance slots for pipe. I want to bury the box, so I can run over it with my mower (snapper rear engine rider) with no worries about crushing pipe. How do I go about raising the box off the plumbing? My original contractor installed manifold had the box sitting directly on class 200 3/4" pipe. I don't think that's a real good idea. I'll try to post photos later on. The lakes are real smooth and a slalom course needs my immediate attention.