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violets and nimblewill

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by mrkosar, Feb 17, 2006.

  1. mrkosar

    mrkosar LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 680

    i have a customer who has been plagued by violets and nimblewill. i've heard that Surge is a good herbicide to take care of the violets. any suggestions or opinions?

    also he is going to try and round up the nimblewill area and replace it with turf type tall fescue. will one time round up take care of this pesky grassy weed? what TTTF seed do you recommend?

    RABBITMAN11 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,479

    nimble is tough better round up, more than once might even suggest using a tiller to till it all up and than round up again! Still not 100%
  3. C.T. Lawn Care

    C.T. Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 252

    While i was at purdue last winter getting my pesticide licence they said that there is a product coming out in the next year or so that will selectivly kill nimblewil. They also said that it is VERY expensive. So your best bet would be to round up, till, round up, wait, round up. This stuff is very hard to kill!
  4. FINN

    FINN LawnSite Senior Member
    from PA.
    Messages: 280

    I was at a turf conference last month and nimblewill was discussed. I took some notes during the discussions and they are testing a product called Mesotrione (syngenta) and it is expected to be ready for the turf market in next 2 years.

    If I read my notes correctly it was also discussed you can apply Turflon in the spring and fall 2 to 4 times @ 1-2 qts/ac - .75 - 1.5 oz/k. Hand weed in the summer and be expected to make a real commitment over time for it to work. Not 100% guarantee.

    I'm looking forward to the Mesotrione.
  5. NattyLawn

    NattyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,643

    Nimblewill...What a PITA....Some customers had Scyhte put down and then slit seeded them. Nimblewill still came back. Others we had scalp down, slice seed and hope for the best. Tell the customer to mow at 3' or above to keep the turf as thick as possible to outcompete the nimblewill.
  6. TOMMY1115

    TOMMY1115 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 169

    Unfortunatly, Scythe alone won't kill anything anyway. It'll burn it down, but that's about all. Have to use Roundup Pro or similar with it.
  7. indyturf

    indyturf LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Indy
    Messages: 1,901

    after you have green-up in the nimblewill then spray it with round-up wait 2 weeks spray it again wait a week, rake as much of it out as you can and overseed the area.
  8. The Ranger

    The Ranger LawnSite Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 208

    Nobody addressed his violet question. We used (past tense) confront, but it has been removed from the market. If you still have some great....no we use Drive with pretty good results, although I have read other posts where it wasn't effective. Also a 3way 'ester' works well in early spring.
  9. NattyLawn

    NattyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,643

    We had some success hitting the violets twice about 2 weeks apart last fall with 3 way/confront cocktail but won't be using the confront this year either...Ag only for confront...

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