clients suck balls. how many times have u given an estimate or design and u tell the client " your going to want a wall here or a path to the shed" or some **** like that and their like " no we don't want that" and then half way into the job they suddenly magically see the light of your reason and decide that now would be the time to tell you that they thought about it and want that path or what ever and its always going to **** up what ever it is your doing or have already done.....or how they insisted that you do a step to their design that they saw on sum gay home and garden show, even though you strongly don't recommand it, you do it to their design and then half way through they try and get you to do it to how you told them they should have it. Can you tell ...that i'm doing one of those right now. sorry needed to vent. what do you guys say to them.